Energy Conservation: Determining Forces on Particles

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The discussion focuses on using energy conservation principles to determine the forces acting on two interacting particles with masses m1 and m2. The energy function is defined as E = 1/2m1(v1)^2 + 1/2m2(v2)^2 - (k/r^2), where k is a positive constant and r is the magnitude of the separation vector. The participants clarify that differentiating the energy function with respect to time leads to the conclusion that the total energy remains constant (dE/dt = 0). Ultimately, the forces on the particles are expressed as F = [-2k/mod(x1-x2)^3](v1-v2), confirming the relationship between energy and force in conservative systems.

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1. I have to use energy conservation to determine the forces acting on the particles.


2. An isolated system consists of two particles of masses m1 and m2, whose position vectors in an inertial frame are x1 and x2 and velocity vectors are v1 and v2.

The interaction of the particles can be described by the energy function :

E= 1/2m1(v1)^2 + 1/2m2(v2)^2 - (k/r^2)

k is a positive constant
r = mod(x1-x2) and is the magnitude of the separation vector.

3. Do I have to differentiate E to get 1/2m1(a1)^2 + 1/2m2(a2)^2 - (k/r^2) and equate it to zero?
 
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The units of the first two expressions involving the mass are not energy but momentum. Check the expression again.
 
Ooops. Thanks chrisk for pointing that out.


Indeed the velocity vectors should each be squared.
 
Differentiating with respect to time does lead to

dE/dt = 0

because the total energy of the system is constant. Take into account that r is a function of time.
 
So dE/dt = m1a1 + m2a2 +2k/mod(v1-v2)^3 ?

Would I be right in saying that due to superposition principle then the forces on the particles is F = -2k/mod(v1-v2)^3 ?
 
Check how you differentiated. Use the chain rule.
 
Ah.

So dE/dt = m1a1 +m2a2 + [2k/mod(x1-x2)^3](v1 -v2) = 0
 
Recall that

F=-dU/dx

when F is conservative. The given expression contains kinetic and potential energy (U) terms.
 
Then F= [-2k/mod(x1-x2)^3](v1-v2)
 

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