Energy flow in the wave equation (PDE)

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The discussion centers on the wave equation represented by the partial differential equation (PDE) y_tt - c^2 y_xx = 0. Participants analyze the energy quantity E = 1/2(y_t^2 + c^2 y_x^2) and its conservation law, expressed as dE/dt + dJ/dx = 0. The challenge lies in determining the function J, which is related to the wave equation and can be defined as J = -y_t y_x. This relationship allows for the conservation of energy to be established within the context of the wave equation.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of partial derivatives, specifically y_t and y_tt.
  • Familiarity with the wave equation in the form y_tt - c^2 y_xx = 0.
  • Knowledge of energy conservation laws in physics and mathematics.
  • Ability to manipulate and differentiate functions involving multiple variables.
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  • Study the derivation of conservation laws in partial differential equations.
  • Learn about the implications of energy quantities in wave mechanics.
  • Explore the relationship between energy and momentum in wave equations.
  • Investigate the role of boundary conditions in solving PDEs like the wave equation.
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Homework Statement



I have a problem that I'm trying to make sense of. Note y_t is the partial derivative of y with respect to t and y_tt is the second order partial derivative of y with respect to t, etc. The complete problem statement is the following:

Show that for the equation y_tt - c^2 y_xx = 0
the quantity E = 1/2(y_t^2 + c^2 y_x^2)
satisfies a conservation law dE/dt + dJ/dx = 0

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I calculated dE/dt to = y_t * y_tt + c^2 y_x * y_xt so dJ/dx must equal the negation of dE/dt. But I'm not sure where J comes from. I'm guessing that it is somehow related to y through the wave equation but I'm not sure how. Also it is unclear to me how I could integrate the negation of dE/dt to arrive at J. I gave the complete problem statement. In that chapter of the book the function J is used but I don't think it applies to this problem. It involves a function J in terms of other variables. Hoping what I gave makes sense.

Brian
 
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I think this is just a mathematical trick. After you have differentiated E with respect to t then you
can observe that the two terms may also be obtained by differentiating another function with respect
to x. This function turns out to be y_t y_x and we can call it -J. Making this definition gives the result.

Brian4455 said:

Homework Statement



I have a problem that I'm trying to make sense of. Note y_t is the partial derivative of y with respect to t and y_tt is the second order partial derivative of y with respect to t, etc. The complete problem statement is the following:

Show that for the equation y_tt - c^2 y_xx = 0
the quantity E = 1/2(y_t^2 + c^2 y_x^2)
satisfies a conservation law dE/dt + dJ/dx = 0

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I calculated dE/dt to = y_t * y_tt + c^2 y_x * y_xt so dJ/dx must equal the negation of dE/dt. But I'm not sure where J comes from. I'm guessing that it is somehow related to y through the wave equation but I'm not sure how. Also it is unclear to me how I could integrate the negation of dE/dt to arrive at J. I gave the complete problem statement. In that chapter of the book the function J is used but I don't think it applies to this problem. It involves a function J in terms of other variables. Hoping what I gave makes sense.

Brian
 
You know E, you know the conservation relation that E and J satisfy, can't you use these two to try and compute what J has to be?

Mat
 

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