Energy Conservation in Standing Waves: Comparing Displacements and Finding k

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This discussion focuses on energy conservation in standing waves, specifically comparing the displacements of a stretched wire with fixed ends. The displacement equations are given as ##y=A\sin\left(\frac{\pi x}{L}\right)\sin(\omega t)## for energy ##E_1## and ##y=A\sin\left(\frac{2\pi x}{L}\right)\sin(2\omega t)## for energy ##E_2##. It is established that ##E_2 = 4E_1##, leading to the conclusion that the constant k equals 4. The kinetic energy expression is derived as ##K=\frac{1}{4}\mu\omega^2A^2L\cos^2\omega t##, demonstrating the time-dependence of kinetic energy while potential energy is linked to the string's tension and length change.

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  • Understanding of wave mechanics, specifically standing waves
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Homework Statement


The ends of a stretched wire of length L are fixed at x=0 and x=L. In one experiment, the displacement of the wire is given by ##y=A\sin\left(\frac{\pi x}{L}\right)\sin(\omega t)## and its energy is ##E_1##. In another experiment, the displacement of wire is given by ##y=A\sin\left(\frac{2\pi x}{L}\right)\sin(2\omega t)## and its energy is ##E_2##. If ##E_2=kE_1##, find ##k## (k is a positive integer).

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$$y=A\sin\left(\frac{\pi x}{L}\right)\sin(\omega t)=\frac{A}{2}\left[\cos\left(\frac{\pi x}{L}-\omega t\right)-\cos\left(\frac{\pi x}{L}+\omega t\right)\right]$$

The given wave is formed by two waves traveling in opposite direction with amplitudes ##\frac{A}{2}##. At ##t=0##, the two waves completely cancel out each other. Hence the energy becomes zero. Isnt ##E_1## time dependent?
 
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The waves only cancel each other in the displacement. This means the potential is zero at that moment. They do not cancel in the velocity. In fact, the string has its maximal velocity at that time.

I suggest finding an expression for the kinetic energy of the string and compute it at t=0 when the potential is zero.

No, the energies are not time dependent.
 
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Using ##\text{d}K=\frac{1}{2}(\mu \text{d}x) v_y^2##
$$K=\frac{1}{4}\mu\omega^2A^2L\cos^2\omega t$$

at ##t=0##
$$E_1=\frac{1}{4}\mu\omega^2A^2L$$
$$E_2=\frac{1}{4}\cdot 2\mu\cdot 4\omega^2A^2\frac{L}{2}=4E_1$$
 
@Orodruin how can I compute potential energy as a function of time?
 
You have to compare the length of the string to the rest length. The potential energy is the tension multiplied by this change in length.

To get energy conservation with the waves you will need to use the first order approximation, but that was also used for deriving the wave equation so it is consistent.
 
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