Energy & Momentum Homework: Frictionless Roller Coaster from A-E

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a frictionless roller coaster, where a car starts from a height and various calculations related to energy, speed, and force are required. The problem includes points A through E with specific heights and asks for total energy, speed at point B, and work and force needed to stop the car at point E.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the conservation of energy and the work-energy theorem as approaches to solve for work and force. Questions arise regarding the correct application of formulas and the relationship between work, force, and distance.

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Some participants have provided guidance on using the work-energy theorem and have confirmed the correctness of certain calculations. There is ongoing exploration of how to relate work to force, with participants attempting to clarify their understanding of the concepts involved.

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Participants express uncertainty about the transition from energy calculations to force calculations, indicating a need for further clarification on the relationships between these concepts. There is a focus on ensuring the correct units are applied in the context of the problem.

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Consider a frictionless roller coaster.
Point A=95m
Point B=65m
Point C=65m
Point D= 25m
Point E= Is 7m from the end of the course where the height is 0

If a 1200kg car starts at rest from point A, calculate:

a)The total energy of the system
b)The speed of the car at point B
c)The force that must be applied to bring it to a stop at point E
d)The work done to bring it to a stop at point E

The attempt at a solution

a)
The total energy in a system is the sum of all its kinetic energy and potential energy
Et=total energy

Et=½mv^2 + mgh

=½(1200kg)(0)^2 + (1200kg)(9.8m/s)(95)
=0 + 1117200
=1.1 x 10^6 J

b)
m=1200kg
d=(95m-65m)=30m
g=9.8m/s

vf^2=vi^2 + 2aΔd

=0+2(9.8m/s)(30m)
=√588
=24 m/s

Ok, now question c) and d) is where I get stuck.

I think I need to use this equation W=FcosΘΔd for part d)...but I'm not sure.

Any help for question c) and d) would be greatly appreciated. Thank you :)
 
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Forget momentum. You got lucky on B. You should really use conservation of energy rather than a kinematic equation.

C and D, you need to use the work-energy theorem.
 
Ok so is that W = KEf - KEi? Where KE = ½mv^2.

So Would it be W=½mv^2f - ½mv^2i

W=½(1200kg)(0)^2 - ½(1200kg)(43m/s)^2

=0 - 1109400
= -1109400 J
= -1.1 x 10^6 J

Is this closer for d)?
 
Thanks,
Im still not sure on how to solve for force though. This is pretty new to me.

for part d) since -1.1 x 10^6 J of work was done to bring the car to a stop at point E, would 1.1 x 10^6 J of force have to be applied to bring the car to a stop for part c)?
 
No, Energy is measured in Joules (or Newton Meters). Force is measured in Newtons.

You have used the Work-Energy theorem to compute the work.

Now remember how to relate work, distance, and force to compute the force.
 
No, Energy is measured in Joules (or Newton Meters). Force is measured in Newtons.

You have used the Work-Energy theorem to compute the work.

Now remember how to relate work, distance, and force to compute the force.
 
Ok,

W=F•Δd
∴F=(W) / Δd

F= (1109400 J) / (7m)

=158485.71 N
=1.6 x 10^5 N

better?
 

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