Energy of a String: Understanding the Various Forms of Energy in String Theory

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The discussion revolves around the nature of energy associated with strings in string theory, exploring various interpretations and forms of energy, including kinetic and potential energy. Participants examine the implications of these interpretations within both classical and quantum frameworks.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions what type of energy strings possess, asking if it is kinetic, electromagnetic, or another form.
  • Another participant asserts that it is kinetic energy of a string, but later clarifies that this implies the string is not made of energy itself.
  • A different participant emphasizes that the formal Lagrangian of a string can describe purely kinematical energy without needing to define what the string is made of.
  • One participant draws an analogy with a spring, questioning the terminology of referring to its energy as "kinetic energy" and suggesting that such labels may not be useful in physics.
  • Another participant cites the Polyakov action for a bosonic open string, noting that the Lagrangian includes a standard kinetic term, but expresses skepticism about classical analogies in quantum theory.
  • It is noted that in non-relativistic terms, the energy of the string can be viewed as a sum of kinetic and potential energy, with specific derivatives interpreted accordingly.
  • One participant raises a point about the nature of strings, suggesting they may not be made of anything but could represent a vibrating point of space-time.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of energy in strings, with no consensus on whether strings are made of energy or what specific forms of energy they possess. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the fundamental nature of strings and their energy.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge limitations in defining the nature of strings and the implications of their energy, with some noting the challenges of applying classical concepts to quantum frameworks.

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Hi I'm new to Physics Forum but not Physics. I am well versed with the theories of Quantum Mechanics and String Theory. And I have a question, exactly what "type" of energy do strings posses? In other words when we say a string is a "loop" of energy what kind of energy are we referring to; Kinetic, electromagnetic, electric, nuclear or something else? And is there any "generic" state of energy. I mean can we have energy in no specific form just as energy itself or "pure energy"? Thanks for all your help.


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It's kinetic energy of a string.
 
humanino said:
It's kinetic energy of a string.

But if it's the "kinetic energy of a string" you're implying that the string itself is not made of energy but rather it is made of something else that possesses kinetic energy or a form of energy. How is that so? Thanks for all your help.
 
No, I'm just saying that this is the formal lagrangian of a string with purely kinematical energy. I don't need to assume that the string is made of anything, I don't know what it is made of, and I think stating "it is made of pure energy" is a useless, void, affirmation (it is neither wrong nor true, and most importantly it does not help me whatsoever). What is remarkable, is that you get interactions from a purely free lagrangian. This is quite different from gauge fields in the standard model.
 
Let me to consider an spring moving freely in space. Do you claim that its free hamiltonian is "the kinetic energy of the spring"? It is, as a minimum, a bizarre name. But I agree that in any case the formal name is useless as a physics concept. And even more if you consider the relativistic aspects.
 
Well, in the simple example of the bosonic open string the Polyakov action reads

S_P = -\frac{1}{4 \pi \alpha'}\int_W d \tau d \sigma \sqrt{ \gamma}\gamma^{ab} \partial_a X^{\mu} \partial_b X_{\mu}

and the Lagrangian contains the standard kinetic term. I don't really think there is a good classical analogy of the kinetic term in an quantum theoretic action.
 
In a non-relativistic terminology, only the time-derivative (I am talking about the world-sheet time tau) of X is naturally interpreted as kinetic energy, while the derivative with respect to sigma is more naturally interpreted as a potential energy. Hence, the energy of the string is a sum of the kinetic and the potential energy.
 
Demystifier said:
In a non-relativistic terminology, only the time-derivative (I am talking about the world-sheet time tau) of X is naturally interpreted as kinetic energy, while the derivative with respect to sigma is more naturally interpreted as a potential energy. Hence, the energy of the string is a sum of the kinetic and the potential energy.
I never saw it that way, and counting the number of derivative in time (two) does not match here (only one).

In relativistic physics, the kinetic action is given by the length of the worldline, here the kinetic action is given by the surface (generalized length) of the worldsheet.

But again, to me all that matters is the difference between free and interacting theory of point particle vs string. It was especially relevant in the early days of string theory to explain hadronic duality and the double counting of s-channel and t-channel diagrams.
 
So, really nobody knows exactly what a string is made of, right? What if it isn't actually made of anything, but is a vibrating point of space-time?
 

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