Enrolled as a freshmen and am having second thoughts on my major

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The discussion revolves around a freshman student, Selig, who is reconsidering their major in computer engineering after having previously focused on arts in high school. The conversation explores the challenges of transitioning back to a STEM field, particularly regarding math preparedness and course scheduling.

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  • Selig expresses concern about being behind in math due to a late decision to pursue computer engineering after focusing on arts in high school.
  • Some participants suggest that there may be interdisciplinary programs that combine arts and engineering, though one notes that such a program was discontinued at their university.
  • Another participant shares their experience of switching from a focus on music to studying math and physics, emphasizing that it is possible to catch up with self-study and hard work.
  • One participant reassures Selig that starting with pre-calculus is common among engineering students and that many have successfully transitioned to higher-level math courses thereafter.
  • Another participant advises Selig to stick with the engineering curriculum until they can definitively decide on their major, noting that many students start at or below pre-calculus and still succeed.
  • A participant mentions that Selig is not behind and that many students have similar experiences, reinforcing the idea that it is possible to succeed despite initial setbacks.
  • Several participants encourage Selig to consult with an academic advisor to ensure they are on the right path for their second semester.

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Participants generally agree that starting with pre-calculus is not a disadvantage and that many students have successfully transitioned into engineering from similar backgrounds. However, there is no consensus on the best approach for Selig moving forward, as opinions vary on whether to continue with the current major or explore other options.

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Some participants highlight the importance of a solid understanding of algebra as a prerequisite for calculus, while others note that individual experiences may vary significantly based on personal circumstances and prior educational focus.

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This discussion may be useful for students considering a transition into STEM fields, particularly those who have previously focused on non-science subjects and are concerned about their preparedness in math and related courses.

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Enrolled as a freshmen in engineering transfer program (need some help)

Hi,

I have been lurking this forum for sometime, and absolutely think its an amazingly helpful place.

Regarding the topic. I enrolled in a college to study computer engineering, but sadly, in my sophmore year in hs I had a change of mind and wanted to go into a non-science related field which made me concentrate on arts rather than math and science which put me back in terms of physics, chemistry, and math. Right before college I suddenly wanted to do computer engineering which probably spelled my doom in terms of getting into the university I wanted to go to because I did not meet the requirements (calculus, etc.) for their engineering program, so I enrolled at that one for computer engineering in at a sister-college (in transfer engineering transfer program.) So I'm wondering on what advice you guys have for me to do. Another thing which is worrying me is how behind am I in terms of math?

So far my first semester looks like this (freshmen):

English 100 (3 cred)
Pre-Cal (5 cred)
Introduction to Computer Engineering (3 cred)
General Anthropology (3 cred) <-- for Social Studies,
General Chemistry (4 cred) <-- am on weight list, and if I get the seat will switch out for Gen. Anth

Ideal plan for second semester (freshmen):

Cal 1 (5 cred)
Chemistry 1 (5 cred, Gen Chem is the pre-requesite since I included something else instead of my Chem :[)
Social Studies (3 cred)
Computer Science (4 cred)

Sincerly,

Selig
 
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I think there may be a middle ground between the two (arts and computer engineering)

There used to be a specialised program in my university on multimedia arts and image processing. I wouldn't be surpised if such program exists in other colleges around the world. Unfortunatedly they killed the programme because they had too few students so I am unable to link you the course page, let me have a seatch in the google cache though...
 
I did something similar, I only took up to algebra 2 (a tiny bit of matrix manipulation, some basic algebra stuff, very, very basic trig) in high school (and no math my senior year) because I was taking AP art and practicing guitar 5 hours a day, thinking I wanted to go to music school. After I didn't get into my ideal music school I started studying up on math and physics and taught myself basic calc from a few different texts, mainly Morris Klein's book. So it is definitely do-able.

I didn't get into a great college, nor did I try to, but I've made something reasonable out of my experience and it has worked out quite well. I worked hard (with some lapses later on) and was able to handle abstract algebra by my 3rd semester, doing grad courses by junior year etc.

There is no reason you can't give it your all, don't be afraid to really go for it. If you work at it, your math skills will come together.
 
Sorry if I didnt articulate, my point was I switched around too much in regards to what I wanted to do. And since I decided to go back to science I was hurt with my previous interest which I don't have anymore. I want to do CE, but I just hurt in my sophmore cause I wanted to study a non-science related topic, and now that I'm studying engineering I can't take calculus first semester, and have to take it second semester...
 
The only advice I have to give is that you had a sudden change in heart for a reason. If I was you, I would stick with my engineering curriculum until I could say with certainty that I do (or don't) want to be an engineer. I am not really qualified to be handing out words to live by, so take it with a grain of salt. I am mainly replying to answer the pre-calc question.

So, as far as your math goes: plenty of people start of in pre-calculus (and even lower) and do just fine. It is my personal belief that the "testing in" system is to a certain degree worthless. The only real pre-requisite for university level calculus is a good understanding of algebra; but this isn't the place.

I know for a fact that there are multiple people on this forum who started off at or below pre-calculus (people who are doing perfectly fine, and are fast on their way to degrees in math/physics/engineering). Don't let this little hiccup push you out of a degree/profession which you would presumably get satisfaction from
 
You are not behind.
 
Welcome to PF Selig!

I am a 2nd year Computer Engineering student myself so I could give you advice. I am looking at your schedule and you seem good to go as a Freshman. I did not take my first Computer Engineering course until the 2nd semester of my Freshman year. It is good that you are taking it in the first semester. I took Pre-Cal my first semester in college and currently in Calculus 2. I would say you are not behind as many of my fellow engineering friends started with Pre-Cal their first semester (a few took Calc). Though my 4 year plan assumes that you would start off with Calculus first semester. You should be fine though. I would see your advisor before you make plans for 2nd semester as they will steer you in the right path. One thing I would check is if you can take Calc 1 and Classical Mechanics at the same time.

Good luck! :)
 
I wouldn't sweat it too much. I actually have a music degree that I have never put to use for the most part, and so I never completed math higher than College Algebra!

I started back at the university around 2 years ago, I am not a 3'd year physics student. I was set back a little this time around because I was lacking several courses that were required to take anything actually in physics, but attending during the summers non-stop for the past two years has put me now only a tiny bit behind.
 
Thanks for all your replies. Helps me feel alone that I'm not the only one who started an engineering/science field not in calculus, etc.

Regards,

Selig5560
 

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