Exploring Enthalpy: Magnesium Reactivity in Hydrochloric Acid Lab Results

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The discussion revolves around a laboratory experiment investigating the reactivity of magnesium with hydrochloric acid, specifically focusing on how varying amounts of magnesium affect the enthalpy of the reaction. Participants explore the relationship between the amount of magnesium used and the accuracy of the measured enthalpy compared to theoretical values.

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  • Experimental/applied
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • The original poster (OP) reports that 0.017 moles of magnesium produced the closest enthalpy measurement to theoretical values, followed by 0.020 moles, and 0.025 moles being the least accurate.
  • One participant inquires about the stoichiometric amount of magnesium required for the reaction.
  • Another participant suggests that the OP may have encountered random errors in their data rather than systematic errors.
  • A different participant proposes that incomplete reactions could occur if the magnesium is not mixed thoroughly with hydrochloric acid, particularly at higher amounts of magnesium.
  • It is noted that only 0.050 moles of chloride ions are available in the 50 mL of 1M HCl solution, which could limit the reaction for higher amounts of magnesium.
  • The OP acknowledges that only the two lesser trials had excess chloride ions available for the reaction.
  • One participant raises the possibility that the experimental procedure may have introduced errors, such as heat loss during a slow reaction.
  • Another participant shares their experience, indicating that the form of magnesium used (e.g., fine powder vs. ribbon) can significantly affect the consistency of results, suggesting that surface area and concentration variations impact reaction rates and precision.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the reasons behind the experimental results, with some attributing the discrepancies to potential errors in procedure or reaction completeness, while others emphasize the importance of magnesium form and surface area. No consensus is reached on the primary cause of the observed data trends.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention limitations related to the completeness of the reaction and the potential for heat loss during the experiment, which may affect the accuracy of enthalpy measurements. The discussion does not resolve these issues.

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I just conducted a lab in which I am testing varying amounts of magnesium to react with a consistent amount of hydrochloric acid, determining which amount of magnesium produces a reaction whose enthalpy is the closest to the theoretical/ideal enthalpy of this equation. I created 3 conditions using 0.025 mols Mg, 0.020 mols Mg, and 0.017 mols Mg. 0.017 mols produced the closest to the theoretical enthalpy, then 0.020, then 0.025 being the least accurate. I am completely lost as to why this would be! Could anyone provide some sort of scientific explanation that is responsible for my data? Why does the least amount of Mg yield the most accurate enthalpy?
Additional info just in case you need it to answer:
Balanced equation: Mg + 2HCl ------> MgCl2 + H2 (can't do subscript)
I used 50 mL HCl with a concentration of 1 mol Hcl per 1 L HCl(aq)
Thanks all! Also this is urgent because my lab is due tomorrow :)
 
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What would be the stoichiometric amount of Mg required?
 
I can't think of any systematic error that would produce that data. I think you just got a strange set of random error in your data.
 
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I can't think of any systematic error that would produce that data. I think you just got a strange set of random error in your data.
I think @Chestermiller is on the right track. Unless the components are mixed very thoroughly, if you just have enough acid to react with the Mg, I don't think the reaction(of converting the Mg) will be complete. Thereby for .025 moles Mg, the reaction will be incomplete, etc. For .017 moles Mg, the reaction may have been complete. (Compute the number of moles of Cl available. HCl needs to be in excess.)
 
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The OP doesn't appear to have returned yet, but there are only .050 moles of Cl available in 50 ml of 1M HCl solution. The result is that for the .025 moles of Mg, it would use up every single Cl atom available for the reaction of the .025 moles of Mg to be complete. It is an interesting experimental result that appears to have a simple answer.
 
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Yes you guys are right. Only the lesser two trials have excess Cl.
 
Technically - if the experiment is done right - fact that there is just a stoichiometric amount of the HCl should not change the result. I suspect half of the problem lies in the experimental procedure (slow reaction can mean relatively large heat loses during the experiment), but as we don't know the setup, we can't be sure.
 
I've run this type lab many times and find it's more in the 'kind' of Mg used... Fine powder form Mg gives the most consistent data close to theoretical where ribbon or 'chunk' types or ribbon strips give random, inconsistent results. The stoichiometry works more effectively with lower wt amounts of powder form Mg to give smaller Standard Deviations than higher weight amounts of power form Mg. The common explanation is lower mass amounts of powder react faster than the higher mass amounts as a higher surface area (assuming constant acid concentration) is exposed to the reactive interface. Theoretically, all should produce the same heat of reaction but particle size (surface area effects) and concentration effects (both [Mg] or [H+] variations) will affect the precision-type data trends. Keep after it, you are getting a great education. Good luck.
 
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