Epsilon delta to prove continuity

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The discussion revolves around using the epsilon-delta definition of continuity to prove that the function f(x) = 3x^2 - x is continuous at x=2. Participants explore the steps involved in the proof and express varying levels of understanding regarding the epsilon-delta concept.

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  • James presents an initial attempt to apply the epsilon-delta definition but expresses confusion about the next steps.
  • One participant suggests rewriting part of the function to facilitate the proof and introduces the variable d = x - 2, exploring how to make |d| small enough to satisfy the epsilon condition.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need to start the proof with "f(2 + δ) - f(2)" to clarify the role of δ in the epsilon-delta definition.
  • James requests a comprehensive explanation of the epsilon-delta concept to apply it to other functions, indicating a lack of understanding of the foundational principles.
  • One participant points to previous threads on the forum that have discussed epsilon-delta proofs, suggesting that these resources may help clarify the topic.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding and familiarity with the epsilon-delta definition, with no consensus on a clear explanation or method for applying it to the problem at hand.

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James's understanding of the epsilon-delta definition appears to be limited, and there are unresolved questions regarding the application of the definition to the specific function. The discussion includes references to prior threads that may contain relevant information but does not resolve the current confusion.

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I have an example bit I can't quite follow it...?

Use epsilon -delta definition of continuity to prove f(x) = 3x^2 - x is continuous at x=2

Ep > 0 and delta > 0 in terms of Ep

f(x) -f(2) = 3x^2 - x -(3*2^2 -2)

f(x) - f(2) = 3x^2 -x - 10
f(x) - f(2) = (3x + 5)(x - 2)

So far so good - but now can someone explain what happens please...!

James
 
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Well, we may, for example, rewrite 3x+5 as 3(x-2)+11.

Now, set d=x-2

We then have:
|f(x)-f(2)|=|(3d+11)d|<=3|d|^2+11|d|<=14|d|, if |d| is tiny enough, specifically, when |d|<1 (i.e, when x is between 1 and 3)

Now, can you make |d| so small that given any e, 14|d| will be smaller than e?
 
Hi James! :smile:

(have a delta: δ and an epsilon: ε and try using the X2 tag just above the Reply box :wink:)
james.farrow said:
Use epsilon -delta definition of continuity to prove f(x) = 3x^2 - x is continuous at x=2

Ep > 0 and delta > 0 in terms of Ep

f(x) -f(2) = 3x^2 - x -(3*2^2 -2)

You're probably wondering "wherever does δ come into it?? :confused:"

You needed to start with "f(2 + δ) -f(2) = …" :wink:
 
Thanks for the replies lads - I appreciate it! What I need is an explanantion of the whole epsilon delta thing really from start to finish.

I don't understand it to be honest and I need to so I can apply it to other functions etc

Many thanks

James
 
james.farrow said:
Thanks for the replies lads - I appreciate it! What I need is an explanantion of the whole epsilon delta thing really from start to finish.

I don't understand it to be honest and I need to so I can apply it to other functions etc

Many thanks

James

Start with the first thing you don't understand.
 

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