Equation of a Circle with a Center and Tangent Point

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The discussion revolves around finding the equation of a circle with a specified center at (10, -14) and a tangent point on the line x=13. Participants are exploring the relationship between the center, the tangent line, and the radius of the circle.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of the radius based on the distance from the center to the tangent line. There are questions about the interpretation of distance and the correct method to find the radius. Some participants express confusion about graphing the circle and the relevance of graph paper.

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The discussion is active, with participants questioning each other's interpretations of the problem. There is a focus on clarifying the definition of the radius in relation to the tangent line, and some guidance has been offered regarding the correct distance to consider.

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Participants are addressing potential misunderstandings about the nature of the tangent line and the distance calculations involved. There is an acknowledgment of errors in initial calculations and the need for a clearer understanding of the geometric relationships at play.

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What is the equation of the circle with a center point of (10, -14) when the circle is tangent to x=13?

D = √(13-10)^2 + (0-(14))^2
D = √(3)^2 + (14))^2
D = √9+196
D = √205

Radius = √205
(x-10)^2 + (y-(-14))^2 = √205^2
(x-10)^2 + (y+14)^2 = 205

But how am I suppose to graph this?
 
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xxmegxx said:
What is the equation of the circle with a center point of (10, -14) when the circle is tangent to x=13?

D = √(13-10)^2 + (0-(14))^2
D = √(3)^2 + (14))^2
D = √9+196
D = √205

Radius = √205
(x-10)^2 + (y-(-14))^2 = √205^2
(x-10)^2 + (y+14)^2 = 205

But how am I suppose to graph this?

Your method of calculating the radius (if D is supposed to be the radius) makes no sense.

The problem is actually very simple. You're given that the circle is tangent to x=13, which is a vertical line. You know the centre has an x-coordinate of 10. So what can you say about the radius?
 
I meant D to be the distance. I'm not sure how you solve this problem without graph paper.
 
xxmegxx said:
I meant D to be the distance. I'm not sure how you solve this problem without graph paper.

Distance from what to what?

There's no need for graph paper. All you need is a reasonable sketch. Remember the general equation for the circle and what the terms represent.
 
The distance from the center point to the tangent line to find the radius.
 
What is the issue with graphing? it is a circle, you know the center and radius. What else do you want?
 
xxmegxx said:
The distance from the center point to the tangent line to find the radius.

But that distance is NOT the radius! Remember that x=13 is a vertical tangent to the circle. A circle with the radius you calculated would not have that line as a tangent.

Also, what you calculated was the distance between the points (10,-14) and (13,0). This is NOT the same as the (shortest) distance between (10,-14) and the line x = 13. Do you see why?

Just do a sketch. Do you see why the radius is simply 13 - 10 = 3?

(As a final point, there was an error in your working in the first post. The distance should've been [(13 - 10)^2 + (0 - (-14))^2]^\frac{1}{2}. Note the sign in the y-term. But the squaring masked your error.)
 
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xxmegxx said:
The distance from the center point to the tangent line to find the radius.

Curious3141 said:
But that distance is NOT the radius!
Just to avoid confusion, what he is writing here is the radius. But you are saying that the distance calculated before, from the center of the circle to the point (13, 0), is not "the distance from the center point to the tangent line".

I suspect that the real difficulty is that xxmeqxx is thinking, incorrectly, that "x= 13" means the point on the x-axis with x-component 13 rather than, as every here is telling him, the line of all points whose x-component is 13, (13, y).
Remember that x=13 is a vertical tangent to the circle. A circle with the radius you calculated would not have that line as a tangent.

Also, what you calculated was the distance between the points (10,-14) and (13,0). This is NOT the same as the (shortest) distance between (10,-14) and the line x = 13. Do you see why?

Just do a sketch. Do you see why the radius is simply 13 - 10 = 3?

(As a final point, there was an error in your working in the first post. The distance should've been [(13 - 10)^2 + (0 - (-14))^2]^\frac{1}{2}. Note the sign in the y-term. But the squaring masked your error.)
 
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HallsofIvy said:
Just to avoid confusion, what he is writing here is the radius. But you are saying that the distance calculated before, from the center of the circle to the point (13, 0), is not "the distance from the center point to the tangent line".

Yes, what he wrote in words (with reference to distance between centre and tangent line) is the radius. But what he calculated (distance between centre and (13,0) ) is not. That's what I meant.
 

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