Equation of motion for interacting fields

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The discussion centers on deriving the equations of motion for 2N classical, real, scalar fields \(\phi_i(x^{\nu})\) and \(\psi_i(x^{\nu})\) using the provided Lagrangian density \(L\). The Lagrangian includes an interaction term represented by \(-\lambda \phi_i \psi_i\). The initial attempt at a solution incorrectly disregarded this interaction term, leading to the identification of the equations as the Klein-Gordon equation. The correct approach is to apply the Euler-Lagrange equation to the full Lagrangian, including the interaction term, to obtain the accurate equations of motion.

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Homework Statement



2N classical, real, scalar fields \phi_i (x^{\nu}) \psi_i (x^{\nu}) ,where i=1,...,N

I have to find the equations of motions for \phi_i (x^{\nu}) \psi_i (x^{\nu})

Lagrange density is given by

L= \sum_{i=1}^N (\frac{1}{2}(\partial_{\mu} \phi_i \partial^{\mu} \phi_i+\partial_{\mu} \psi_i \partial^{\mu} \psi_i-m^2(\phi_i \phi_i + \psi_i \psi_i) - \lambda \phi_i \psi_i))

Homework Equations



Euler-Lagrange equation

\partial_{\mu} \frac{\partial L}{\partial (\partial_{\mu} \phi_i)} - \frac{\partial L_0}{\partial \phi_i} = 0

The Attempt at a Solution



The problem for me is the interaction term? Can I just put in the Euler-Lagrange equation as well, or what do I do with it? I found some equations by disregarding the interaction term

\partial_{\mu} \partial^{\mu} \phi_i + m^2 \phi_i = 0
\partial_{\mu} \partial^{\mu} \psi_i + m^2 \psi_i = 0

Is this right?
 
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It's easier to read the math if you actually wrap it in [tex ] and [ /tex] tags :wink: I've done that in the quote below for everyone's reference:
>>S/Z<< said:

Homework Statement



2N classical, real, scalar fields [itex]\phi_i (x^{\nu})[/itex], [itex]\psi_i (x^{\nu})[/itex], where i=1,...,N

I have to find the equations of motions for [itex]\phi_i (x^{\nu})[/itex], [itex]\psi_i (x^{\nu})[/itex]

Lagrange density is given by

[tex]L= \sum_{i=1}^N (\frac{1}{2}(\partial_{mu} \phi_i \partial^{\mu} \phi_i+\partial_{mu} \psi_i \partial^{\mu} \psi_i-m^2(\phi_i \phi_i + \psi_i \psi_i) - \lambda \phi_i \psi_i))[/tex]

Homework Equations



Euler-Lagrange equation

[tex]\partial_{\mu} \frac{\partial L}{\partial (\partial_{\mu} \phi_i)} - \frac{\partial L_0}{\partial \phi_i} = 0[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



The problem for me is the interaction term? Can I just put in the Euler-Lagrange equation as well, or what do I do with it? I found some equations by disregarding the interaction term

[tex]\partial_{mu} \partial^{\mu} \phi_i + m^2 \phi_i = 0[/tex]
[tex]\partial_{mu} \partial^{\mu} \psi_i + m^2 \psi_i = 0[/tex]

Is this right?
You may recognize the equations you found as the Klein-Gordon equation which governs the evolution of a free scalar field. So it is exactly what you'd expect to find if you discard the interaction term, i.e. pretend that the fields do not interact. But it's not the answer you need. You can't just disregard that term and pretend that it doesn't change anything.

Just include the interaction term in the Lagrangian, as you do with the other terms.
 
diazona said:
It's easier to read the math if you actually wrap it in [tex ] and [ /tex] tags :wink: I've done that in the quote below for everyone's reference:

Sorry about that! My first post so not familiar with it all yet

diazona said:
You may recognize the equations you found as the Klein-Gordon equation which governs the evolution of a free scalar field. So it is exactly what you'd expect to find if you discard the interaction term, i.e. pretend that the fields do not interact. But it's not the answer you need. You can't just disregard that term and pretend that it doesn't change anything.

Just include the interaction term in the Lagrangian, as you do with the other terms.

Okay so just use the Euler-Lagrange equation on the full Lagrange.

Thanks for the reply:)!
 

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