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The discussion centers on solving problems related to the equations of normals and ellipses using implicit differentiation. The user successfully derived the slope of the tangent line as dy/dx = (-3x^2 - 4y)/(4x + 12y) for part 1a and computed the equation of the tangent line for part 1b. The user also correctly identified that the normal line is perpendicular to the tangent line, leading to the equation y = -x. The final challenge involves determining the second intersection point of the normal line at (-1, 1) with the ellipse defined by x^2 + y^2 = 1.

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Hey guys,

I have a couple of questions about this problem set I've been working on. I'm doubting some of my answers and I'd appreciate some help.

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For 1a, I used implicit differentiation and isolated dy/dx.

This gave me the following answer:

dy/dx = (-3x^2 -4y)/(4x+12y)

Which I then used for 1b and substituted (1,1) for x and y respectively to compute:

y-1= (-7/16) * (x-1)

As for 2, the normal is perpindicular to the tangent line and is thus the negative reciprocal. Thus, if the tangent line's slope is 1, the normal is -1/1= -1.

Thus, I used that for the equation of the line through (-1,1) to get:

(1,-1) (and the other point was already given by the question)

This was obtained by using y=-x as the equation and then substituting x=-y into the x^2 + y^2 = 1 elipse expression to get x^2=1. Thanks in advance.
 
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ardentmed said:
For 1a, I used implicit differentiation and isolated dy/dx.

This gave me the following answer:

dy/dx = (-3x^2 -4y)/(4x+12y)

Which I then used for 1b and substituted (1,1) for x and y respectively to compute:

y-1= (-7/16) * (x-1)

Correct for both a and b part.

ardentmed said:
As for 2, the normal is perpindicular to the tangent line and is thus the negative reciprocal. Thus, if the tangent line's slope is 1, the normal is -1/1= -1.

Thus, I used that for the equation of the line through (-1,1) to get:

(1,-1) (and the other point was already given by the question)

This was obtained by using y=-x as the equation and then substituting x=-y into the x^2 + y^2 = 1 elipse expression to get x^2=1. Thanks in advance.

You've figured out everything correctly so far and now, since solving for $x^2=1$ gives $x=\pm1$, you've to answer the last part of the problem 2 by determining at which point the normal line at $(-1,\,1)$ intersects the ellipse the second time. Can you see how proceed?
 
anemone said:
Correct for both a and b part.
You've figured out everything correctly so far and now, since solving for $x^2=1$ gives $x=\pm1$, you've to answer the last part of the problem 2 by determining at which point the normal line at $(-1,\,1)$ intersects the ellipse the second time. Can you see how proceed?

No, I don't quite get it. Isn't the final answer just (1,-1)?
Thanks in advance.
 

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