Error Propagation - Estimating Variance

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Homework Statement



Not exactly a homework question, but rather a section in Statistical Data Analysis:

Suppose there is a pdf y(x)[/SUB] that is not completely known, but μi and Vij are known:

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



I understand how <y(x)> ≈ y(μ),

My confusion:

Why does <y(x2)>

1. Imply we square everything throughout?

<[y(μ) + Ʃ[∂y/∂x](xi - μi)]2>

2. give a xi and xj term? Where did the xj come from?

3. Why is it for i≠j when xi and xj are uncorrelated, the expression simplifies to

σ2y ≈ Ʃ[∂y/∂x]2σ2i

Where did the j go?

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unscientific said:

Homework Statement



Not exactly a homework question, but rather a section in Statistical Data Analysis:

Suppose there is a pdf y(x)[/SUB] that is not completely known, but μi and Vij are known:

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I understand how <y(x)> ≈ y(μ),

My confusion:

Why does <y(x2)>

1. Imply we square everything throughout?

<[y(μ) + Ʃ[∂y/∂x](xi - μi)]2>

2. give a xi and xj term? Where did the xj come from?

3. Why is it for i≠j when xi and xj are uncorrelated, the expression simplifies to

σ2y ≈ Ʃ[∂y/∂x]2σ2i

Where did the j go?


snywxy.png

154wqkw.png


It told you explicitly where the j "went": it said that ##V_{ii} = \sigma_i^2## and that ##V_{ij} = 0 ## for ##i \neq j##.
 
Ray Vickson said:
It told you explicitly where the j "went": it said that ##V_{ii} = \sigma_i^2## and that ##V_{ij} = 0 ## for ##i \neq j##.

Hmm, that makes sense.

What about the initial derivation? Why did they choose to square the entire RHS when it's a function of (x2) and not f2(x)? And the j's started appearing..
 
unscientific said:
Hmm, that makes sense.

What about the initial derivation? Why did they choose to square the entire RHS when it's a function of (x2) and not f2(x)? And the j's started appearing..

Do you honestly mean to say that you cannot tell the difference between ##g(x)^2## and ##g(x^2)##? The paper is working with ##g(x)^2##!
 
Ray Vickson said:
Do you honestly mean to say that you cannot tell the difference between ##g(x)^2## and ##g(x^2)##? The paper is working with ##g(x)^2##!

Ah I see, but where did the j's come from though? And nothing about y(x2) was said that day.
 
unscientific said:
Ah I see, but where did the j's come from though? And nothing about y(x2) was said that day.

Try it for yourself: write out ##(\sum_{i=1}^3 a_i)^2 = (a_1 + a_2 + a_3)^2## in complete detail, by expanding out the square. After doing that, re-write the result using summation notation.

This will be my last post on this topic.