Estimating oil molecule diameter

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The discussion revolves around estimating the diameter of an oil molecule, specifically addressing assumptions and justifications related to the problem. Participants are exploring the context of molecular dimensions and the physical properties of substances.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster seeks guidance on justifying assumptions made regarding the diameter of the molecule and the thickness of the cylinder used in calculations. Participants question the values used for the cylinder's radius and discuss the implications of these values on the estimated thickness.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging in clarifying assumptions and exploring the justification for their choices. Some guidance has been offered regarding the consideration of surface tension, although there is no explicit consensus on the best approach yet.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of potential confusion regarding the use of diameter versus radius in calculations, as well as the need for further exploration of surface tension to support assumptions made in the problem.

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Homework Statement
Working out an estimation of molecule's diameter
Relevant Equations
V = 4/3*pi*r^3
Can anyone help me in what assumptions I can make and how to justify them for when working out diameter of the molecule in part b) of this question? You can see the method that I have used in my workings but how would I explain it in words?

I obtained the diameter to be 0.13 nano metres which seems like a sensible length for a molecules diameter?

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Thanks for any help! :)
 
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How did you arrive at the radius of the cylinder being 0.4 (presumably meters)?

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gneill said:
How did you arrive at the radius of the cylinder being 0.4 (presumably meters)?

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I made a silly mistake and used the diameter's length in metres and not the radius length. So it should have read 0.2m instead.

I have changed from 0.4 to 0.2 and get the thickness of d to be 0.521 nano metres now

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Yes, that looks better!
 
gneill said:
Yes, that looks better!

Ok so the only assumption that I have made in this problem is that the cylinder thickness is 1 molecule's diameter thick. How do I justify such an assumption?
 
Bolter said:
Ok so the only assumption that I have made in this problem is that the cylinder thickness is 1 molecule's diameter thick. How do I justify such an assumption?
Perhaps look into surface tension.
 
gneill said:
Perhaps look into surface tension.

Possibly.
I think I'll need to look into that more myself before I make my own justification as I'm a bit hazy over that. But thank you :)
 
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