Estimating partial derivatives

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This discussion focuses on estimating partial derivatives of temperature on a metal plate situated in the xy-plane, specifically at the point (6,4). The estimated values for the partial derivatives are Tx(6,4) = 3 degrees Celsius per meter and Ty(6,4) = -2.5 degrees Celsius per meter. The discussion also covers the calculation of Tu(6,4) using the unit vector u = (i + j)/√2, resulting in Tu(6,4) = 0.354 degrees Celsius. Additionally, the second derivative Txy(6,4) is calculated, yielding a value of 0.25 degrees Celsius per meter squared.

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Homework Statement



a metal plate is situated in the xy plane and occupies the rectangle 0<x<10 and 0<y<8 where x a y are measure in meters. The temperature oat the pooint x,y on the plate it T(x,y), where T is measured in degrees celsius.
note the attached table

a- estimate the values of the partial derivatives of Tx(6,4) and Ty(6,4). What are the units of measure
b - Estimate the values of Tu(6,4) where u = (i + j)/(2^1/2). Interpret your result
c - Estimate the value of Txy(6,4)


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welp I am not sure if correct but hers what i did

a - t(x) = 6, because from point 6,4, moving down the x value the temp rises 6 degrees
and so t(y) = -5. the units are degrees celsius i belive

b - for b i pluged my x and y partials from part a into the i & j component and got u = 7.8 degrees celsius

c - t(x) = 6 just as in part a. and from there point 8,4, i moved the right for a change of -6 degrees
 

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Homework Statement



a metal plate is situated in the xy plane and occupies the rectangle 0<x<10 and 0<y<8 where x a y are measure in meters. The temperature oat the pooint x,y on the plate it T(x,y), where T is measured in degrees celsius.
note the attached table

a- estimate the values of the partial derivatives of Tx(6,4) and Ty(6,4). What are the units of measure
b - Estimate the values of Tu(6,4) where u = (i + j)/(2^1/2). Interpret your result
c - Estimate the value of Txy(6,4)


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



welp I am not sure if correct but hers what i did

a - t(x) = 6, because from point 6,4, moving down the x value the temp rises 6 degrees
and so t(y) = -5. the units are degrees celsius i belive
What is "t"? Is it the same as T? If so, what do you mean by T(x)? T is a function of both x and y. Do you mean Tx(x,y), the derivate with respect to x?

The temperature at (6,4) is 80 while the termperatures at (4, 4) and (8,4) are 78 and 96 respectively. you could estimate the rate of temperature there as (80- 78)/(6-4)= 1 or (96- 80)/(8- 6)= 3 or (96- 78)/(8- 4)= 2. Of those I would expect the last to be most accurate. You seem to have forgotten to divide by the "\Delta x".

Finally, the units are not "degrees celsius". Because this is a rate of change, the units are "degrees celsius per meter"- again, you did not divide by the "\Delta x".

b - for b i pluged my x and y partials from part a into the i & j component and got u = 7.8 degrees celsius
Did you divide by \sqrt{2}?

c - t(x) = 6 just as in part a. and from there point 8,4, i moved the right for a change of -6 degrees
This question is asking for a second derivative. Calculate the partial derivatives with respect to x at (6,4), (6,2), and (6,6), then do the same calculation for the partial derivative with respect to y.
 
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sorry i was being lazy t(x) was just the partial with respect to x

ok so here's what i did

T(x) = (86 - 80)/(8-6) = 3
T(y) = (75-80)/(6-4) = -2.5

T(u), where u = (i + j)/21/2 was i corect in saying that i = T(x) & j = t(y), so T(u) = .354

for T(xy) don't i have to take the partial T(x), and then partial that with respect to y.

how do i do that.
 
Ok I think i got Txy(6,4)

Tx(6,4) = 3
Tx(6,6) = 2.5

=(Tx)(6,6) - Tx(6,4))/delta T = (3-2.5)/2 = .25

Can i get a ahmen
 

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