Estimating the Number of Grains of Sand on Earth: A Fermi Approach

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The discussion revolves around estimating the number of grains of sand on Earth using a Fermi estimation approach. Participants are exploring how to tackle this estimation problem, which involves making reasonable assumptions and calculations based on limited data.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants are questioning the definition of "sands" and clarifying that it refers to "grains of sand." There is discussion about the initial confusion regarding the problem and the need for appropriate data to begin the estimation process. Some participants suggest considering parameters that could significantly affect the estimate, such as grain size.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their thoughts on how to approach the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the importance of estimating average grain size and considering how changes in parameters might affect the outcome. There is recognition of the need for initial attempts to be made in order to receive further assistance.

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Participants are reminded of the forum rules that require them to show attempts at solving the problem before receiving help. There is an acknowledgment of the nature of Fermi questions, which involve estimation based on available information.

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1. How many sands on the earth?



2. Hints: Using the Fermi estimation



3.
 
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What did you do so far? Where did you run into problems?
What is "sands"? Do you mean grains of sand?
 
mfb said:
What did you do so far? Where did you run into problems?
What is "sands"? Do you mean grains of sand?
Yes, I mean the "grains of sand"

I do not really understand your first two questions.
 
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mfb said:
From the board rules:This is not a board where others do your homework. We can help you if you run into problems, but it is your homework.
Oh,yes. When I first saw this question, I have no idea about that. However, now I know that this question is a kind of Fermi questions, which need appropriate estimation.

But the problem is that I do not know how to start. There is another Fermi question, " How many Piano Tuners in New York? " , I can do that by using the estimation of the population of NY, the amount of pianos, the working time of Tuners, etc.

However, when I am asked for "How many grains of sand? ", I don't know what data should I use to estimate
 
One way to approach it is to think about what parameters, if changed, would radically change your answer. E.g. if all the sand grains were a million times smaller than they actually are, that would make a lot more of them. Would this alter any other information available to you? If not, having an estimate for average grain size will be essential.
 
I found this short book on order of magnitude estimation rather helpful

Link
 
Thank you very much, that's very helpful
 

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