Calculate velocity of the fastest neutron inside a 96Mo nucl

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The discussion revolves around calculating the velocity of the fastest neutron in a 96Mo nucleus and determining whether it is appropriate to treat these nucleons in a non-relativistic manner. The context involves concepts from nuclear physics and the Fermi gas model.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of Fermi energy and momentum, leading to the determination of neutron velocity. Questions arise regarding the implications of the calculated Lorentz factor on the validity of non-relativistic approximations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the relationship between the calculated velocity and the Lorentz factor. There is a recognition of the borderline nature of the results, and some guidance is offered regarding the relevance of relativistic effects based on energy comparisons.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the Fermi energy of the neutron is significantly lower than its rest mass energy, raising questions about the appropriateness of non-relativistic treatment. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the threshold for considering relativistic effects.

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Homework Statement


Calculate the velocity of the fastest neutron in a 96Mo nucleus and, based on this, explain whether or not we are safe to consider such nucleons in a non-relativistic way. Hint: first
calculate the Fermi energy.

Homework Equations


Fermi energy from Fermi gas model: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_gas

The Attempt at a Solution


Calculating the Fermi energy using Wolfram:
http://m.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=(hbar^2/(2*1.674929*10^-27kg))((3*pi^2((6*10^43)))/1m^3)^(2/3)

Fermi Energy = 30.3946 MeV

Fermi Momentum = √(2mE)
m: mass of neutron
E: Fermi energy

Fermi Momentum = √(2*939.565*30.3946) = 238.988 MeV/c

Velocity = Fermi Momentum / mass
= 238.988 MeV/c / 939.565Mev/c^2
= 0.2547c

So the fastest neutron in 96Mo is traveling at .2547 * speed of light. Provided my calculation is correct, I'm not sure whether we are safe to calculate them in a non-relativistic way though?
 
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the fastest neutron in 96Mo is traveling at .2547 * speed of light. Provided my calculation is correct, I'm not sure whether we are safe to calculate them in a non-relativistic way though?
Ultimately it depends on what you are going to calculate and how accurately you need the answer. What does it give for the Lorenz factor? That might be a clue.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativistic_speed
 
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I calculated the lorentz factor and got 1.03. I'm not sure if this means we are safe to consider the neutrons as non-relativistic though.

http://m.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=1/sqrt(1-(0.2547^2/1^2))
Yes, that's what I got. Borderline, I'd say. I can only repeat, it depends what question you are trying to answer, which perhaps says it is not safe to ignore it.
 
When you say 'borderline' what do you mean?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_gas#Relativistic_Fermi_gas

This says "For particles with energies close to their respective rest mass we have to use the equations of special relativity"

Considering the neutrons fermi energy is 30.3946 MeV and it's rest mass is 939.565Mev/c2 we could say its energy isn't close to it's rest mass.
 
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"For particles with energies close to their respective rest mass we have to use the equations of special relativity"
Yes, that is certainly true. But it doesn't say that at only 3% it is safe not to. I'm really not sure.
If I had to gamble, I would opt for saying you do not need to consider relativity.
 

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