Ethanoic acid + 3 methyl, butanol -> name?

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The discussion revolves around the naming of an organic compound formed from the reaction of ethanoic acid and 3-methylbutanol. Participants express confusion regarding the correct nomenclature and the implications of having functional groups on other functional groups.

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  • One participant expresses confusion about naming the compound and questions the presence of a functional group on another functional group.
  • Another participant suggests that the compound could be named "3-methylbutyl acetate," simplifying the naming process.
  • A different participant proposes the name "isoamyl acetate," indicating an alternative perspective on the compound's structure.
  • One participant challenges the relevance of biochemistry practice tests to organic chemistry, suggesting a disconnect in the discussion.
  • A participant humorously points out a potential mistake in the structural representation of the compound.

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There is no consensus on the correct name for the compound, with multiple competing views presented by participants. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the appropriate nomenclature.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding about functional groups and their interactions, indicating potential gaps in foundational knowledge that may affect the discussion.

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This is NOT homework, I am just confused on how to name this organic compound. My chemistry teacher got quite of stumped, let alone i do not believe my fellow class mates in their idea of the name.

Example:

-----------------------------------------------------------------CH3
------------------------------------------------------------------|
OH-CH2-CH2-CH2(CH3)-CH3 + CH3COOH --> CH3-C-O-CH2-CH2-CH-CH3
--------------------------------------------------||
--------------------------------------------------O

(Sorry it's a bit hard to draw the compound on this; I am currently capped and can't be bothered uploading a picture to a website).

Anyways, back to the Question.

What is the name of the substance?

Ethanoic + 3 mthyl, butanol -> H2o + " 2 methyl, butanyl ethanoate"

I've always thought you are not able to get a functional group, on a functional group. Looking at this we notice the butyl functional group attached to the ester (ethanoate). Then there is also a methyl group of this?

If that is actually the name, can someone please guide me in the right direction? - What is the general rule with having a Functional Group/Functional Group.

(P.S I do understand you can obviously get two separate functional groups, I've just never encountered a functional group on another).

Thanks, recoil33
 
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You are just trying too hard. Look at it from the other end.

Its just palin old 1-butyl acetate ( butyl acetate for short is ok.) plus a 3-methyl group.
so- 3-methylbutyl acetate

Example:

-----------------------------------------------------------------CH3
------------------------------------------------------------------|
OH-CH2-CH2-CH2(CH3)-CH3 + CH3COOH --> CH3-C-O-CH2-CH2-CH-CH3
--------------------------------------------------||
--------------------------------------------------O

(Sorry it's a bit hard to draw the compound on this; I am currently capped and can't be bothered uploading a picture to a website).

Anyways, back to the Question.

What is the name of the substance?

Ethanoic + 3 mthyl, butanol -> H2o + " 2 methyl, butanyl ethanoate"

I've always thought you are not able to get a functional group, on a functional group. Looking at this we notice the butyl functional group attached to the ester (ethanoate). Then there is also a methyl group of this?

If that is actually the name, can someone please guide me in the right direction? - What is the general rule with having a Functional Group/Functional Group.

(P.S I do understand you can obviously get two separate functional groups, I've just never encountered a functional group on another).

Thanks, recoil33[/QUOTE]
 
It is even easier than that... isoamyl acetate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amyl_alcohol" + water
 
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Jyoti garg said:
i think you need more practice so for practice you can go through these practice tests.

How would a biochemistry test help with organic chemistry. Stop link spamming.
 
dacarls said:
-----------------------------------------------------------------CH3
------------------------------------------------------------------|
OH-CH2-CH2-CH2(CH3)-CH3 + CH3COOH --> CH3-C-O-CH2-CH2-CH-CH3
--------------------------------------------------||
--------------------------------------------------O
:confused: Shome mishtake?

Ah, now I see what you mean, you put too few --- in
dacarls said:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------CH3
-----------------------------------------------------------------------|
OH-CH2-CH2-CH2(CH3)-CH3 + CH3COOH --> CH3-C-O-CH2-CH2-CH-CH3
--------------------------------------------------||
--------------------------------------------------O
 

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