Euler-Lagrange Equation for Several Dependent Variables

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The discussion centers on solving the Euler-Lagrange equations for functions of several dependent variables, specifically for the equations $$f_u - \frac{d}{dx}(f_{u'}) = 0$$ and $$f_v - \frac{d}{dx}(f_{v'}) = 0$$. The user derived the function $$f = (u')^2 + 2uv + (v')^2$$ and calculated the derivatives, leading to the equations $$v - u'' = 0$$ and $$u - v'' = 0$$. Substituting $$v = u''$$ into the second equation resulted in $$u - u'''' = 0$$. The user expressed uncertainty about applying boundary conditions to find extremals, but received confirmation that their approach was correct.

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


$$f_u- \frac{d}{dx} \left(f_{u'} \right) = 0 $$
$$f_v- \frac{d}{dx} \left(f_{v'} \right) = 0 $$

The Attempt at a Solution


So I calculated the following, if someone could check what I've done it would be greatly appreciated, but I'm not convinced this is right :nb)
$$f=(u')^2+2uv+(v')^2$$
$$f_u=2v$$
$$f_v=2u$$
$$f_{u'}=2u'$$
$$f_{v'}=2v'$$
Subbing these into the Euler-Lagrange equations I got
$$v-u''=0$$
$$u-v''=0$$
Then I subbed ##v=u''## into ##u-v''=0## to get ##u-u''''=0##.
Using ##u=e^{\alpha x}## I got the following expression (not sure if this bit is right)
$$u(x)=Ae^{-x} +Be^{x} +Ce^{ix} +De^{-ix} $$
I'm not sure if I can use the boundary conditions to find the extremals with this? it doesn't look like it would simplify down to a tidy solution?
 

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CMJ96 said:

Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


$$f_u- \frac{d}{dx} \left(f_{u'} \right) = 0 $$
$$f_v- \frac{d}{dx} \left(f_{v'} \right) = 0 $$

The Attempt at a Solution


So I calculated the following, if someone could check what I've done it would be greatly appreciated, but I'm not convinced this is right :nb)
$$f=(u')^2+2uv+(v')^2$$
$$f_u=2v$$
$$f_v=2u$$
$$f_{u'}=2u'$$
$$f_{v'}=2v'$$
Subbing these into the Euler-Lagrange equations I got
$$v-u''=0$$
$$u-v''=0$$
Then I subbed ##v=u''## into ##u-v''=0## to get ##u-u''''=0##.
Using ##u=e^{\alpha x}## I got the following expression (not sure if this bit is right)
$$u(x)=Ae^{-x} +Be^{x} +Ce^{ix} +De^{-ix} $$
I'm not sure if I can use the boundary conditions to find the extremals with this? it doesn't look like it would simplify down to a tidy solution?

You can easily check for yourself if this is correct: from you formula for ##u## you can get a formula for ##v## as ##v = u''##. Then you can check if your ##v## gives you ##u = v''##.

Also: get rid of the question marks ("?"). You should be telling us that you are unsure, rather than asking us if you are unsure.
 
Ahhhh yes I see! I didn't think of doing that,when I subbed my U value into the equations it worked. Thanks for the tip, simple but effective :)
 

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