Euler Lagrange equations in continuum

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The discussion revolves around deriving the Euler-Lagrange equations in the context of continuum mechanics, starting with a simplified problem involving the Lagrangian density. The author attempts to evaluate terms by substituting a discretized version of the Lagrangian and taking limits, but encounters difficulties in obtaining the correct form of the equations. Key issues include missing spatial components and uncertainty about why certain terms vanish as the discretization parameter approaches zero. The conversation highlights the need for clarity in handling discretized terms in the derivation process. Further assistance is sought from a colleague to resolve these challenges.
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Homework Statement
Given

$$\frac{d}{dt} \frac{\partial L}{\partial \dot \phi_a^{(i j k)}} - \frac{\partial L}{\partial \phi_a^{(i j k)}} = 0 \tag{1}$$

Show that, in the limit ##l \rightarrow 0##, we obtain

$$\partial_{\mu} \frac{\partial \mathscr{L}}{\partial(\partial_{\mu} \phi_a)} - \frac{\partial \mathscr{L}}{\partial \phi_a} = 0 \tag{2}$$
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OK I've been stuck for a while in how to derive ##(1)##, so I better solve a simplified problem first:

We work with

Where

$$\mathscr{L} = \mathscr{L}(\phi_a (\vec x, t), \partial_{\mu} \phi_a (\vec x, t)) \tag{3}$$

And ##(3)## implies that ##\mathscr{L}(\vec x, t)##

We know that

$$L=l^3\sum_{(i j k)} \mathscr{L}^{(i j k)}(t) \tag{4}$$

Where

$$\lim_{l \rightarrow 0} L = \int d^3 \vec x \mathscr{L} \tag{5}$$

So, in analogy with ##(3), \mathscr{L}^{(i j k)}## depends on the fields ##\phi_a^{(i j k)} (t)##, on the time derivative of the fields ##\dot \phi_a^{(i j k)} (t)## and on the partial derivative of the fields with respect to ##x, y## and ##z## i.e;

$$\frac{\phi^{(i+1, j, k)}(t)-\phi^{(i, j, k)}(t)}{l} \tag{6.1}$$

$$\frac{\phi^{(i, j+1, k)}(t)-\phi^{(i, j, k)}(t)}{l} \tag{6.2}$$

$$\frac{\phi^{(i, j, k+1)}(t)-\phi^{(i, j, k)}(t)}{l} \tag{6.3}$$Let's tackle the problem.

I would naively plug ##(4)## into ##(1)## and evaluate the terms to get

$$\frac{\partial}{\partial \dot \phi_a^{(i j k)}} \sum_{(i'j'k')} \Big[ l^3 \mathscr{L}^{(i' j' k')}(t) \Big] = l^3 \frac{\partial \mathscr{L}^{(i j k)}}{\partial \dot \phi_a^{(i j k)}} \tag{7.1}$$

$$\frac{\partial}{\partial \phi_a^{(i j k)}} \sum_{(i'j'k')} \Big[ l^3 \mathscr{L}^{(i' j' k')}(t) \Big] = l^3 \frac{\partial \mathscr{L}^{(i j k)}}{\partial \phi_a^{(i j k)}} \tag{7.2}$$

Where I've used the Kronecker delta.

Next I'd take the limit ##l \rightarrow 0##$ of ##\frac{\partial \mathscr{L}^{(i j k)}}{\partial \dot \phi_a^{(i j k)}}## and ##\frac{\partial \mathscr{L}^{(i j k)}}{\partial \phi_a^{(i j k)}}## to get ##\frac{\partial \mathscr{L}}{\partial \dot \phi_a}## and ##\frac{\partial \mathscr{L}}{\partial \phi_a}## (respectively)

So I get

$$l^3 \Big( \frac{d}{dt} \frac{\partial \mathscr{L}}{\partial \dot \phi_a} - \frac{\partial \mathscr{L}}{\partial \phi_a} \Big) = 0 \tag{8}$$

Which of course does not yield ##(2)## when taking the limit ##l \rightarrow 0##.

The issue is that I am missing the spatial components ##(6.1), (6.2), (6.3)##...

I've been discussing this problem and related but we did not manage to really understand it.

Any help is really appreciated.

Thank you :biggrin:
 
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Alright here's another attempt (after discussing with a colleague).

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So it seems we are closer but we still do not see why certain terms in above's EQ. 5 should vanish when taking the limit ##l \rightarrow 0##.

The issue we really have is that we do not fully understand how to deal with discretized terms...

@samalkhaiat , would you have time for this? :smile:
 
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