European 3-years bachelors and US grad schools

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the recognition of European three-year bachelor's degrees for admission to graduate schools in the United States. It explores the differences in degree length and educational requirements between European and American systems, as well as the implications for applicants from Europe.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that European bachelor's degrees typically last three years, while U.S. degrees usually require four years due to additional general education requirements.
  • Others argue that these general education requirements do not significantly impact graduate school admissions, except for their contribution to the overall GPA.
  • A participant questions whether a three-year European undergraduate degree qualifies for U.S. graduate school applications.
  • One response confirms that a three-year degree generally qualifies, but suggests that applicants should verify the specific requirements of the graduate programs they are interested in.
  • There is mention of Ivy League schools potentially having different expectations regarding the depth of study in undergraduate programs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that a three-year European bachelor's degree can qualify for U.S. graduate school applications, but there are differing views on the implications of the additional coursework required in U.S. undergraduate programs and how it affects competitiveness in applications.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of consensus on specific graduate program requirements and the variability in how different universities assess international degrees.

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Lenght of bachelors degree is 3 years in many countries in Europe like in UK, but in US usually 4 years. So does european bs qualify for applying to US grad schools or is masters degree required for europeans with 3-years degree?
 
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Mr.Watson said:
Lenght of bacherlos degree is 3 years in many countries in Europe like in UK, but in US usually 4 years.

This is because US undergraduates generally have to take a number of courses outside of their field of specialization, amounting to a year's worth or even more. We call these "general education requirements" or "distribution requirements." They generally don't matter for graduate school except in so far as they contribute to your overall grade point average (GPA). European undergraduates generally don't have these requirements.
 
jtbell said:
This is because US undergraduates generally have to take a number of courses outside of their field of specialization, amounting to a year's worth or even more. We call these "general education requirements" or "distribution requirements." They generally don't matter for graduate school except in so far as they contribute to your overall grade point average (GPA). European undergraduates generally don't have these requirements.

So european 3-years undergraduate degree qualifies for applying to US gradschools?
 
Yes, although some Ivy schools in America use the 4 years to see a little bit more than they do in the 3 years in Europe (I'm thinking of Caltech seeing QFT in undergrad). So in general yes you qualify, but you should check the specific curricula of the undergrad studies at the universities you're thinking of applying to to see whether your application will be competitive.
 

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