MHB Evaluate Definite Integral $(x-3)^2$ and $(x+4)^2$

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The discussion centers on evaluating the definite integral of two logarithmic functions, specifically $\int_{-5}^{-7}\ln((x-3)^2)dx + 2\int_{0}^{1}\ln((x+4)^2)dx$. Participants suggest changing variables to simplify the integrals, using substitutions like $(x-3) = t$ and $(x+4) = u$. The integration by parts method is mentioned for handling the integral of $\ln(x)^2$, but there is confusion regarding the relationship between the integrals and the logarithmic functions involved. The conversation highlights the need for careful consideration of limits and the properties of logarithmic functions during integration. Ultimately, the focus is on finding a method to solve these integrals accurately.
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Evaluation of $\displaystyle \int_{-5}^{-7}\ln \left(x-3\right)^2dx+2\int_{0}^{1}\ln(x+4)^2dx$

My Try:: Let $(x-3) = t$ Then $dx = dt$ and changing Limit, we get

and Again put $(x+4) = u,$ Then $dx = du$ and changing Limit, we get

$\displaystyle \int_{-8}^{-10}\ln(t^2)dt+2\int_{4}^{5}\ln(u)^2du$

Now How can I solve after That

Help me

Thanks
 
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jacks said:
Evaluation of $\displaystyle \int_{-5}^{-7}\ln \left(x-3\right)^2dx+2\int_{0}^{1}\ln(x+4)^2dx$

My Try:: Let $(x-3) = t$ Then $dx = dt$ and changing Limit, we get

and Again put $(x+4) = u,$ Then $dx = du$ and changing Limit, we get

$\displaystyle \int_{-8}^{-10}\ln(t^2)dt+2\int_{4}^{5}\ln(u)^2du$

Now How can I solve after That

Help me

Thanks

$ln\, t^2 =2 \,ln\, t$ and then I think you know how to integrate ln t dt and as 1st limit is -ve use $(-t)^2$
 
jacks said:
Evaluation of $\displaystyle \int_{-5}^{-7}\ln \left(x-3\right)^2dx+2\int_{0}^{1}\ln(x+4)^2dx$

My Try:: Let $(x-3) = t$ Then $dx = dt$ and changing Limit, we get

and Again put $(x+4) = u,$ Then $dx = du$ and changing Limit, we get

$\displaystyle \int_{-8}^{-10}\ln(t^2)dt+2\int_{4}^{5}\ln(u)^2du$

Now How can I solve after That

Help me

Thanks

Since both of these are related to $$\int (\ln(x))^2 \;dx$$ I will do this.

We use integration by parts with $$u=\ln(x)$$ and $$dv=\ln(x)$$. Then $$du=1/x$$ and $$v=x\ln(x)-x$$, and so:

$$\int (\ln(x))^2\;dx=\int u\; dv= u\; v - \int du\;v=x\ln(x)(\ln(x)-1) -\int (\ln(x) -1) \;dx$$

(note: I assume that $$x$$ is positive over any range of integration we may use, which can always be arranged as long as $$0$$ is not in the range)

(note: This is also a standard integral, item 15.530 in Scham's Handbook)
 
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zzephod said:
Since both of these are related to $$\int (\ln(x))^2 \;dx$$ I will do this.

No they're not, they're related to $\displaystyle \begin{align*} \ln{ \left( x^2 \right) } \end{align*}$, not $\displaystyle \begin{align*} \left[ \ln{(x)} \right] ^2 \end{align*}$.
 
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