Evaluating a definite integral

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the definite integral $$\int_1^e \frac{1+x^2\ln x}{x+x^2\ln x}\,dx$$. Participants explore various substitution methods and algebraic manipulations to simplify the integral, seeking assistance and clarification on their approaches.

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  • Exploratory
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a substitution $\ln x=t$ leading to the integral $$\int_0^1 \frac{1+e^{2t}t}{1+e^t t}\,dt$$ but expresses uncertainty on how to proceed.
  • Another participant suggests that adding and subtracting $x$ could simplify the problem, but they also encounter difficulties in their manipulation.
  • A different participant rewrites the integrand as $$\frac{1+x^2 \log(x)}{x+x^2 \log(x)}= 1+\frac{1}{x}-\frac{1+\log(x)}{1+x\log(x)}$$ and provides an integrated form, prompting questions about the reasoning behind this approach.
  • Several participants discuss dividing both the numerator and denominator by $x^2$, leading to a new substitution involving $t = \frac{1}{x}+\ln(x)$, which they find simplifies the integral significantly.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various methods and approaches to tackle the integral, but there is no consensus on a single method or solution. Multiple competing views and techniques are presented, indicating an ongoing exploration of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention specific algebraic manipulations and substitutions without fully resolving the implications or limitations of their approaches. The discussion includes unresolved steps and assumptions that may affect the evaluation of the integral.

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Problem:
$$\int_1^e \frac{1+x^2\ln x}{x+x^2\ln x}\,\,dx$$

Attempt:
I tried the substitution $\ln x=t \Rightarrow dx/x=dt$ and got the following integral:
$$\int_0^1 \frac{1+e^{2t}t}{1+e^t t}\,dt$$
I am not sure how to proceed after this. :confused:

Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
 
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Adding and subtracting $x$ might make thinks a little bit easier.
 
Hi ZaidAlyafey! :)

ZaidAlyafey said:
Adding and subtracting $x$ might make thinks a little bit easier.

I must be missing something but I get stuck on the following:
$$\int_1^e 1+\frac{1-x}{x+x^2\ln x} \,dx$$
How do I proceed after this? :confused:
 
Write the integrand as
$$\frac{1+x^2 \log(x)}{x+x^2 \log(x)}= 1+\frac{1}{x}-\frac{1+\log(x)}{1+x\log(x)}$$
Now integrate:
$$ \int \frac{1+x^2 \log(x)}{x+x^2 \log(x)}dx=x+\log(x)-\log(1+x\log(x))+C$$
 
Shobhit said:
Write the integrand as
$$\frac{1+x^2 \log(x)}{x+x^2 \log(x)}= 1+\frac{1}{x}-\frac{1+\log(x)}{1+x\log(x)}$$

How did you think of that? It doesn't seem obvious to me. :confused:
 
$\displaystyle \int \frac{1+x^2 \ln (x)}{x+x^2\ln(x)}dx$

Now Divide both Numerator and Denominator by $x^2$

$\displaystyle \int\frac{\frac{1}{x^2}+\ln(x)}{\frac{1}{x}+\ln(x)}dx = \int \frac{\left(\frac{1}{x}+\ln(x)\right)-\left(\frac{1}{x}-\frac{1}{x^2}\right)}{\frac{1}{x}+\ln(x)}dx$

Now Let $\displaystyle \frac{1}{x}+\ln(x) = t$, Then $\displaystyle \left(\frac{1}{x}-\frac{1}{x^2}\right)dx = dt$

$\displaystyle = x-\int\frac{1}{t}dt = x-\ln \left|\frac{1}{x}+\ln(x)\right|+\mathbb{C}$
 
jacks said:
$\displaystyle \int \frac{1+x^2 \ln (x)}{x+x^2\ln(x)}dx$

Now Divide both Numerator and Denominator by $x^2$

$\displaystyle \int\frac{\frac{1}{x^2}+\ln(x)}{\frac{1}{x}+\ln(x)}dx = \int \frac{\left(\frac{1}{x}+\ln(x)\right)-\left(\frac{1}{x}-\frac{1}{x^2}\right)}{\frac{1}{x}+\ln(x)}dx$

Now Let $\displaystyle \frac{1}{x}+\ln(x) = t$, Then $\displaystyle \left(\frac{1}{x}-\frac{1}{x^2}\right)dx = dt$

$\displaystyle = x-\int\frac{1}{t}dt = x-\ln \left|\frac{1}{x}+\ln(x)\right|+\mathbb{C}$

Thank you jacks! That's much easier. :)
 

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