Evaluating annihilation and creation operators

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The discussion revolves around evaluating annihilation and creation operators in the context of quantum mechanics, specifically related to the states of a quantized harmonic oscillator.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss how to evaluate expressions involving operators acting on quantum states, with initial attempts noted for specific cases. Questions arise regarding the meaning of operator powers and their application, as well as the interpretation of kets representing numbers.

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Some participants have provided insights into the evaluation process and the nature of operator powers, while others express confusion about the underlying concepts and seek clarification. There is an ongoing exploration of definitions and mathematical relationships without a clear consensus.

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Participants mention difficulties in grasping quantum mechanics concepts and the relevance of mathematical knowledge to the topic. There are indications of missing context in the original post regarding the meaning of kets associated with numbers.

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1. Evaluate the following (i.e. get rid of the operators):

\hat{a}^{+}\left|5\right\rangle,~~~\hat{a}\left|5\right\rangle,~~~(\hat{a}^{+})^{3}\left|2\right\rangle~~~\hat{a}^{3}\left|2\right\rangle,~~~(\hat{a}^{+}\hat{a}\hat{a}^{+}\hat{a}\left|1\right\rangle,~~~\hat{a}^{+}\hat{a}^{+}\hat{a}\hat{a}\left|1\right\rangle


Homework Equations



\hat{a}\left|n\right\rangle=\sqrt{n}\left|n-1\right\rangle,~~~\hat{a}^{+}\left|n\right\rangle=\sqrt{n+1}\left|(n+1)\right\rangle

The Attempt at a Solution



The first one is \sqrt{6}\left|(6)\right\rangle and second one \sqrt{5}\left|(4)\right\rangle

However I'm unsure how to evaluate for the others using the equations given. Could someone please point me in the right direction?

Thanks.
 
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What does the cube of an operator mean ? And lose the round brackets inside the bra and ket | and <> symbols (the pun is not intended).
 
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dextercioby said:
What does the cube of an operator mean ? And lose the round brackets inside the bra and ket | and <> symbols (the pun is not intended).

I have no idea how powers affect operators. Can't find any examples in my lecturers notes nor when searching the internet. Really struggling to grasp quantum mechanics as the mathematics I know doesn't seem to apply.
 
tombrown9g2 said:
I have no idea how powers affect operators.
It's just like ordinary algebra, e.g., ##x^2 := x \, x##.

So can you evaluate ##(a^+)^2|n\rangle## and ##a^2 |n\rangle## now?

Also, you should be able to evaluate ##a^+ a|n\rangle## with the "relevant equations" you already written down.
 
Ahh I see, you just use the operators one by one. Thanks.
There is one more thing.. what does a ket of a number actually mean?
I understand that for example \hat{p}\left|\psi\right\rangle~=~ h/i*d/dx~\psi(x) but I don't see how this relates to actual numbers?
 
tombrown9g2 said:
There is one more thing.. what does a ket of a number actually mean?
I understand that for example \hat{p}\left|\psi\right\rangle~=~ h/i*d/dx~\psi(x) but I don't see how this relates to actual numbers?
You didn't specify the context in your original post, so I can only give a broad answer. For the quantized harmonic oscillator, one denotes the ground state (i.e., state of lowest energy) by ##|0\rangle##. The higher energy (eigenstates) are then successively numbered by 1,2,3... etc. The creation and annihilation operators are an example of so-called Ladded Operators which map from one such eigenstate to another. The Wiki page has more info about other contexts.
 

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