Evaluating infinite sum for e^(-x) using integrals

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the infinite sum $\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} e^{-n}$ using integrals and exploring the possibility of representing it as a Riemann sum. Participants are examining different approaches, including integration and geometric series, to understand the sum's behavior.

Discussion Character

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  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes using a Riemann sum to evaluate the infinite sum, suggesting that $\lim_{m\to\infty} \sum_{n=1}^{m} e^{-n}$ can be expressed as an integral.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about solving the sum using integration, advocating for the use of the geometric series formula instead.
  • A later reply reiterates the geometric series approach, providing the formula for the sum of an infinite geometric series and calculating the specific case for $\sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{1}{e^n}$.
  • One participant attempts to derive an integral representation for $e^{-n}$, suggesting a specific integral form and expressing a desire for assistance in finding the sum.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best method to evaluate the infinite sum. There are competing views on whether integration or the geometric series approach is more appropriate.

Contextual Notes

Some participants' arguments depend on assumptions about the convergence of series and the validity of using integrals in this context, which remain unresolved.

Amad27
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Hello,

I have began my journey on infinite sums, which are very interesting. Here is the issue:

I am trying to understand this:

$\displaystyle \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} e^{-n}$ using integrals, what I have though:

$= \displaystyle \lim_{m\to\infty} \sum_{n=1}^{m} e^{-n}$

$= \displaystyle \lim_{m\to\infty} \frac{1}{m}\sum_{n=1}^{m} me^{-n}$

So, suppose this is an right-hand Riemann sum, with $m$ *Equal* subintervals.

$f(x_i) = me^{-n}$ represents the *height* of the function, we will have the integral for.

$\Delta(x) = \frac{1}{m}$

But, How can this be represented as an integral?

Thanks!
 
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I am not sure this can be solved using integration. The standard way to solve it using Geometric series

$$\sum_{n\geq 0} x^n = \frac{1}{1-x} \,\,\,\, |x| < 1$$

The proof is not difficult if you are interested.
 
ZaidAlyafey said:
I am not sure this can be solved using integration. The standard way to solve it using Geometric series

$$\sum_{n\geq 0} x^n = \frac{1}{1-x} \,\,\,\, |x| < 1$$

The proof is not difficult if you are interested.
Really? I was really hoping it was. It there a way to write the Riemann Sum:

$\displaystyle \lim_{m\to\infty}\frac{1}{m}\sum_{n=1}^{m} me^{-n}$

As an integral form?
 
Olok said:
Really? I was really hoping it was. It there a way to write the Riemann Sum:

$\displaystyle \lim_{m\to\infty}\frac{1}{m}\sum_{n=1}^{m} me^{-n}$

As an integral form?

I thought on this on my own.

What integral evaluate to $e^{-n}$?

$\displaystyle e^{-n} = \int_{0}^{e} -nx^{-(n+1)} \,dx$

Originally, we had, $\displaystyle \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} e^{-n}$ This is:

$\displaystyle \sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\int_{0}^{e} -nx^{-(n+1)} \,dx$$\displaystyle e^{-n} = \int_{0}^{e} -nx^{-(n+1)} \,dx$

Originally, we had, $\displaystyle \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} e^{-n}$ This is:

$\displaystyle \int_{0}^{e} \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} -nx^{-(n+1)} \,dx$

$S_1 = -x^{-2}$
$S_2 = -x^{-2} - 2x^{-3}$
$S_3 = -x^{-2} - 2x^{-3} - 3x^{-4}$
$S_4 = -x^{-2} - 2x^{-3} - 3x^{-4} - 4x^{-5}$

If someone can help me find the sum, I can finish this problem.
 
To reiterate that posted by ZaidAlyafey ...

The sum of an infinite geometric series is $$\frac{a}{1-r}$$ , where $$a$$ is the first term and $$r$$ is the common ratio such that $$|r| < 1$$

$$\sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{1}{e^n} = \frac{\frac{1}{e}}{1 - \frac{1}{e}} = \frac{1}{e-1}$$
 

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