Evaluating minimum and maximum values with calculations

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To calculate minimum and maximum average speeds, the minimum height and maximum time should be used for minimum speed, while the maximum height and minimum time should be used for maximum speed. The confusion arises because using minimum values can yield a higher speed, while maximum values can yield a lower speed. The key is to consider the relative sizes of the numerator (height) and denominator (time) in the speed calculation. Dividing the minimum distance by the maximum time correctly produces the minimum speed. Understanding how to manipulate these values is crucial for accurate calculations.
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Determine the maximum and minimum values for the average speed of an object falling from a height of 2 meters in 0.63 seconds.

Uncertainty of time = +/- 0.05 s
Uncertainty of height = +/- 0.02 m
Relevant Equations
v = ∆y/∆t
Hi! I know this may seem like a silly question but I really just want to make sure I understand this correctly. I've already calculated the minimum and maximum values for time and height:

t min = 0.58 s
t max = 0.68 s
y min = 1.98 m
y max = 2.02 m

To calculate the minimum average speed, would I use the minimum values of time and height ? (and vice versa for max speed)
I thought that would be the process, but the minimum values give a bigger speed, and the max values give me a smaller speed:

v measured = 2.00/0.63 = 3.17 m/s
v min = 1.98/0.58 = 3.41 m/s
v max = 2.02/0.68 = 2.97 m/s

This is really confusing..
 
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If you want ##\bar{v}_{min}## you have to choose the uncertainties such that the quantity: $$ \bar{v} = \frac{ h \pm u_h}{t \pm u_t}$$ is as small as it can be.

How would you choose the signs to do that?
 
v = ∆y/∆t .
 
erobz said:
If you want ##\bar{v}_{min}## you have to choose the uncertainties such that the quantity: $$ \bar{v} = \frac{ h \pm u_h}{t \pm u_t}$$ is as small as it can be.

How would you choose the signs to do that?
addition gives the smallest value.. so I'd essentially be using the maximum values to get a minimum value for speed? that's very weird haha
 
crememars said:
addition gives the smallest value.. so I'd essentially be using the maximum values to get a minimum value for speed? that's very weird haha
You have you think about the relative sizes of the numerator and denominator. Think about what happens in the division. Addition is not the answer, it depends on which part (numerator, denominator) you are talking about?
 
erobz said:
You have you think about the relative sizes of the numerator and denominator.
Wait, would it be correct to divide the minimum distance by the maximum time then? Ohh it makes a bit more sense now, I see how that would produce a minimum speed
 
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