Evaluating the Limit of f(x,y) at (0,y')

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the limit of a piecewise function f(x,y) as (x,y) approaches (0,y'), where y' is a negative number. The function is defined as f(x,y) = x^y for x > 0 and f(x,y) = 0 otherwise. Participants are exploring the behavior of the function near the origin and questioning the continuity at specific points.

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  • Participants are examining the limit of f(x,y) as (x,y) approaches (0,y') and discussing the implications of approaching from different half-planes. There are inquiries about the behavior of the function when y is negative and how to formally evaluate the limit along various paths.

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Some participants have offered insights into the behavior of the function as x approaches 0, particularly focusing on the implications of negative y-values. There is ongoing exploration of the function's continuity at (0,0) and (0,y') for negative y', with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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Participants are considering the piecewise nature of the function and the different definitions that apply in the half-planes defined by x > 0 and x <= 0. The discussion includes the challenge of evaluating limits along specific paths and the implications of those limits on continuity.

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I've been doing some revision and I came across a question which boils down to deciding whether or not the following limit is equal to f(0,0) = 0.

The function is:

<br /> f(x,y) = \left\{ {\begin{array}{*{20}c}<br /> {x^y ,x &gt; 0} \\<br /> {0,otherwise} \\<br /> \end{array}} \right.<br />

The limit is:

<br /> \mathop {\lim }\limits_{\left( {x,y} \right) - &gt; \left( {0,y&#039;} \right)} f(x,y) = L<br />

where L is either undefined, or defined - I don't know yet and y'(y-prime or y-dash) is a negative number. Approaching (x,y') along any path in the half-plane x <= 0 gives a limit of zero which is fairly obvious. Just looking at the definition of the function I think that the only points which may be discontinuous are (0,y') where y is a negative number.

I can think of a fudge method to 'show' that the function diverges to infinity if I approach (0,y') from the half plane x > 0(where f(x,y) = x^y) but that obviously isn't sufficient. So I'm hoping that someone can explain to me how to take evaluate the limit(if it exists) of f(x,y) as (x,y) -> (0,y') where y' is a negative number. So for instance how would I evaluate the limit of f(x,y) as (x,y) approaches (0,-5)? I mean, from the half plane x <= 0 the limit is just zero, but what about from the half plane x > 0(where f(x,y) = x^y)? Any assistance would be good, thanks.
 
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if you're looking for limes of (x,y) to (0,y') then your function is still x^y. make that x^y'. y' is a negative number so you have 1/(x^y). As x -> 0 x^y grows infinitely small, so the whole term 1/(x^y) goes towards infinity. Um... does that help at all?
 
Check the behavior of f(x,0) as x goes to 0.
 
Thanks for the help so far but could you please give me further assistance?

f(x,0) is equal to one as I go from very large positive values of x to very small positive values of x. So it seems that I can say f(x,y) has a limit of one if (x,y) -> (0,0). Since this limit is not equal to f(0,0) = 0(by definition of the function) then it is not continuous as (0,0). However, I'm still having trouble dealing with negative y-values. I'm just unsure about how to deal with such values.

Actually, f(x,y) is a piecewise function so in taking limits along a path(say for instance y = x) which 'part' of the function should I consider? x^y or zero? There are other problems such as, if I take a limit along say y = x, would I only consider y = x for positive x since the function is split into two - half planes x > 0 and x <=0 and f(x,y) is defined differently in those planes.

Just looking at the graph of x^(b), where b is negative, seems to suggest that as (x,y) -> (0,b) of f(x,y) diverges. I'm not even sure if that is enough to suggest that f(x,y) doesn't converge to a finite value as (x,y) -> (0,b) where b is negative. Perhaps even worse, even if that is true, I can't think of a mathematically 'formal' or 'correct' way of showing that it is indeed the case.

Edit: Hmm...x^y = e^{y\log \left( x \right)} = \frac{1}{{e^{ - y\log \left( x \right)} }}.

So as (x,y) -> (0,b) , where b is negative f(x,y) approaches something. If I take the limit along the line y = b then x^y -> infinity. I have shown that the limit of f(x,y) -> (0,b) along a single line does not equal f(0,0) = 0 so in this case that is sufficient to say that the function is not continuous at (0,b) where b is negative?
 
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Now go along f(0,y)=0 as y goes to 0. The limiting value along this particular path is obviously zero.

This shows the limit value does not exist at the origin, even if you restrict your attention solely to the function's behaviour in the 1.quadrant.
 
Thanks for the help arildno.
 

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