Evolution: What Is the Starting Point?

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The discussion centers on the origins of evolution, questioning whether it began with the first single-celled organisms or even earlier with the formation of DNA and proteins. Participants explore the idea that evolution could have started with self-replicating organic molecules, such as ancient proteins or RNA, rather than requiring a nucleus or DNA. The conversation touches on the complexity and mystery surrounding the beginnings of life, with references to scientific perspectives, including those of notable figures like Carl Sagan and Stuart Kauffman. The overarching theme highlights the ongoing debate in the scientific community regarding the precise starting point of evolution and the processes that led to the emergence of life on Earth.
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I was just wondering where we agree that evolution began. I heard it was from the firtst single cell organism but that does not make sense as the organism must have already been evloving with it nucleus and DNA. Do we consider the formation of DNA evolution? Do we consider molecules to protein apart of the evolution chain? Can we even say that evolution began with the big bang? Or do we not even have a starting point?
 
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You don't need a nucleus or DNA to have already been evolving, for example, certain viruses only contain RNA. I would suppose evolution began with the first self-replicating organic molecule, most likely some ancient protein.

we could always ask Carl Sagan, if you wish to bake an apple pie...
 
Wow, that movie is incredible. Is this accepted in the science community? It seems no matter how much we know it still seems so mysteries.
 
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Or do we not even have a starting point?

Hi. I've studied biology for some time now. In my opinion, the best explanation of how life arose on Earth is that put forth by Stuart Kauffman in "At Home In the Universe".
 
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