Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the calculation of tunneling current in a system where a metal is sandwiched between thin dielectrics. Participants explore various approaches to model the tunneling process, including semiclassical methods and quantum mechanical treatments, while addressing the complexities involved in determining the tunneling probability and frequency of electron impacts.
Discussion Character
- Exploratory
- Technical explanation
- Debate/contested
- Mathematical reasoning
Main Points Raised
- Some participants propose calculating tunneling current using a semiclassical approach defined by the equation *Current=N x Freq x Prob*, where they define N as the number density of electrons, Freq as the impact frequency, and Prob as the tunneling probability.
- Others argue that the scenario presented is puzzling, suggesting that typically, tunneling occurs across a dielectric sandwiched between two metals, rather than the reverse.
- A participant mentions that the tunneling current can be described using the Fermi Golden Rule, which incorporates the tunneling probability and the density of states, indicating that the calculation of tunneling probability is often complex and requires approximations like the WKB method.
- One participant questions whether tunneling can only be modeled using perturbative approaches like the Fermi Golden Rule, and inquires about the possibility of calculating tunneling current using an exact wavefunction derived from the Schrödinger equation.
- Another participant suggests deriving an expression for tunneling current based on a model of two conductors separated by a vacuum, presenting a mathematical derivation involving the time-independent Schrödinger equation.
- A participant raises a question regarding the justification for associating tunneling conductance with an exponential relationship derived from the probability of finding an electron on the other conductor.
- One participant proposes using a normalized Gaussian wave packet to model the tunneling process, suggesting that the total probability of transmission can be used to calculate tunneling current, while also considering the velocity distribution of electrons in the metal.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express differing views on the appropriate modeling of tunneling current, with no consensus on the best approach. Some participants agree on the complexity of calculating tunneling probabilities, while others challenge the initial scenario and assumptions presented.
Contextual Notes
Participants note that the calculation of tunneling probability is often not straightforward and may require several approximations. The discussion highlights the dependence on specific definitions and assumptions regarding the system configuration.