Excluded Point Topology: Int(A) and Cl(A) for Sets A with or without p in X

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In the excluded point topology on a set X, the interior Int(A) and closure Cl(A) of a set A depend on whether A contains the excluded point p. If p is in A, Int(A) is A minus p, while Cl(A) is simply A. Conversely, if p is not in A, Int(A) is A itself, and Cl(A) remains A as well. The discussion emphasizes the need to understand the properties of closure and interior, suggesting that proving these properties can aid in determining the relationships. Overall, the key takeaway is the distinction in behavior of Int(A) and Cl(A) based on the inclusion of p in set A.
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Homework Statement


Consider the excluded point topology on a set X.
Determine Int(A) and Cl(A) for sets A containing p and for sets A not containing p.
Excluded point topology is all the subsets of X that exclude p.
where p is in X.

The Attempt at a Solution


So the interior of a set A is the union of all open sets contained in A.
Would the interior for A be A-p , where we exclude p.
and would the interior be A where we include p.
I am not sure what the smallest closed set would be that contains A.
It seem like it would just be A.
 
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cragar said:

Homework Statement


Consider the excluded point topology on a set X.
Determine Int(A) and Cl(A) for sets A containing p and for sets A not containing p.
Excluded point topology is all the subsets of X that exclude p.
where p is in X.

The Attempt at a Solution


So the interior of a set A is the union of all open sets contained in A.
Would the interior for A be A-p , where we exclude p.
and would the interior be A where we include p.
I'm not sure what the smallest closed set would be that contains A.
It seem like it would just be A.

It would be helpful to organize you answers better.

If p∈A,
Determine Int(A).

Determine Cl(A).​

If p∉A,
Determine Int(A).

Determine Cl(A).​
 
for the closure of those sets, should I try a proof by contradiction.
for the second one assume that p is not in the closure.Since p is not in A it is in the complement so it is in a closed set.
 
Have you proven any properties for closure and interior? For example, you can show that interior of A is the largest open set contained in A and closure of A is the smallest closed set which contains A. If you can prove this, then you're almost done.
 
cragar said:
for the closure of those sets, should I try a proof by contradiction.
for the second one assume that p is not in the closure.Since p is not in A it is in the complement so it is in a closed set.
Start with some basics.

If p\in\text{A}\,, then is set A open or is A closed?

If p\notin\text{A}\,, then is set A open or is A closed?
 
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