Expanding Universe: Cosmologists Observations & Questions

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the Big Bang Theory and the observed expansion of the universe, including its acceleration. Participants explore the implications of these observations on established physical laws, the role of dark energy, and the potential for alternative models such as the Big Crunch. The conversation encompasses theoretical, conceptual, and speculative aspects of cosmology.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express skepticism about the Big Bang Theory and question how the universe can expand while gravity should be pulling galaxies closer together.
  • One participant suggests that the accelerated expansion is due to dark matter, while another believes in a cyclical model of the universe involving repeated Big Bangs and Big Crunches.
  • There is a contention regarding the validity of classical physics laws, with some arguing that they have been superseded by general relativity, which accommodates the observed expansion.
  • Concerns are raised about the introduction of dark energy as a necessary entity to explain observations, with some participants questioning its validity and likening it to speculative ideas.
  • Several participants discuss the nature of evidence for dark energy, comparing it to evidence for other particles and forces, while others argue that such evidence is insufficient and speculative.
  • Some participants assert that the evidence for dark energy stems from observational data, while others challenge the robustness of this evidence and suggest that alternative explanations have not been adequately explored.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the validity of dark energy or the implications of the universe's expansion. Multiple competing views remain, with ongoing debate about the adequacy of current physical laws and the interpretations of observational evidence.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the definitions and implications of dark energy, the adequacy of classical physics in explaining cosmological observations, and the nature of evidence supporting various theories. There are unresolved questions about the fundamental understanding of space and its expansion.

  • #31
Alright, can someone please give me a simple lists of steps in what happened in the Big Bang. You guess obviously know the theory front to back, could you please just give me a general overview. Honestly, I'm 16 years old, number one in my class, number one on the golf team, Vice President of NHS, and Vice President of the class. I have a lot of work to do every day when I get home from school, and really don't have the time to look through the links you guys have given me. The only reason I looked into this Big Bang stuff at all is because I did a physics project on it entitled "The physics of creation". Please...
 
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  • #32
If you've got the time to come here and argue about it, you've got the time to read information from the links posted so far.
 
  • #33
ChristianGolfer said:
... Honestly, I'm 16 years old, ...

It all becomes clear now :smile:
 
  • #34
How is it quicker to read something here than elsewhere? The information you've been pointed towards is more complete and carefully constructed than a quick post from someone here would provide. Given the responses you have given to the explanations we have already taken the time to give, it dosn't encourage spending a more lengthy amount of time explaining things to a greater depth.

If you want to understand things more deeply you will have to invest some time and effort in it. There is no way to short cut this fact that anyone else here can provide.

We are happy to answer questions, but when the answers are ignored and the same questions are fired back again patience runs thin.
 
  • #35
A bright, but cocky, 16 year old, probably with a strong religious upbringing, what to recommend...

One place to start reading might be:

http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni.html
http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni/uni_101bb1.html
http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni/uni_101bb2.html
http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni/uni_101bbtest.html

I'm giving multiple links rather than 1 because the site navigation is a bit funky.

And you might find it interesting that LeMaitre, often called the "Father of the Big Bang", was a Jesuit monsignor. So if you are experiencing some personal religious issues (not that it's really any of our business), you might find it interesting that the father of the Big Bang was a Jesuit.

Note that different people here know different things and are at different educational levels. I, for instance, am more interested in General Relativity than cosmology, but I've been dragooned to this forum to help keep an eye on it while our moderator, Space Tiger, works on his thesis.

As you get older than 16, you may one day start to appreciate that not everything can be explained in 200 words or less. Furthermore, you may someday be in the position of trying to explain to your 16 year old son that a) you don't know everything b) you do know things that he doesn't (not that he'll believe you) and that c) communicating across the generation gap can be difficult.
 

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