Expectation Of The Maximum When One Of The Random Variables Is Constant

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the expected value of a random variable defined as the maximum of an exponentially distributed time to failure and a constant time. The context includes theoretical reasoning and mathematical justification for the approach taken in the calculation.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a problem involving a device with an exponentially distributed time to failure and seeks to determine E[X] where X = max(T, 2).
  • Another participant explains that when calculating E[X], the integral for the constant value over an interval is represented as ∫ K f(t) dt, with K being the constant (2 in this case).
  • A different participant expresses concern about the complexity introduced by the constant random variable in the context of order statistics and proposes a representation of X using indicator functions.
  • One participant challenges the correctness of the initial proposed solution, suggesting that the integral from 0 to 2 should yield a different expression and provides an alternative formulation for E[X].
  • Another participant reiterates the challenge to the proposed solution, emphasizing the need for a corrected expression for the expected value based on their calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the correctness of the proposed solution for E[X], with some agreeing on the need for clarification and others providing alternative formulations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the correct approach to calculating the expectation.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved mathematical steps and assumptions regarding the treatment of the constant random variable and its integration within the context of order statistics.

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Good Evening:

I'm given this problem:

A device that continuously measures and records seismic activity is placed in a remote
region. The time, T, to failure of this device is exponentially distributed with mean
3 years. Since the device will not be monitored during its first two years of service, the
time to discovery of its failure is X = max(T, 2) .
Determine E[X].

Solution: 2 + 3 Exp[-2/3]

I've even got the procedure

It's:

E[X] = Integral From 0 To 2 [ 2*f(t)dt ] + Integral From 2 To Infinity [ t*f(t)dt ]

Where f(t)=1/3 Exp[-1/3 t]

I Just want to know, why is this?... Why the interval of the first integral is from 0 To 2, and then again that "2" appears in the integral?... I tried to calculate by means of order statistics but result didn't match

Does someone know how to prove this is actually the solution?... (I'm certain this is the correct solution, but I just want a more specific and justified procedure. I'm not familiarized with constant random variables)

Thanks in advance
 
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actcs said:
I Just want to know, why is this?... Why the interval of the first integral is from 0 To 2, and then again that "2" appears in the integral?... I tried to calculate by means of order statistics but result didn't match

Good morning, actcs! :smile:

Because E[X] = ∫ X(t) f(t) dt.

So when X(t) is a constant, K, over an interval, the integral over that interval is ∫ K f(t) dt …

and in this case K = 2. :wink:

(and ∫ f(t) dt, without the K, would just be the probability, not the expectation)
 
Hello, Thank you for replying

The problem in this case is that the constant random variable is involved in an order statistic, so it is not so trivial to see the sample space of each of the random variables

I did this: Write the random variable X as:

X = 2 I(0,2](T) + T I(2,Infinity)(T)

Where I(a,b)(T) is an indicator function for the random variable T

The way I see this was:

If device fails between now and the end second year, discovery time will be "End of year 2", whereas if device fails after that, discovery time will match fail time, ie, X=T

I think it was rather complicated to obtain the density funcion of X and then calculate the expectation

Best Regards
 
actcs said:
I've even got the procedure

It's:

E[X] = Integral From 0 To 2 [ 2*f(t)dt ] + Integral From 2 To Infinity [ t*f(t)dt ]

Where f(t)=1/3 Exp[-1/3 t]

I Just want to know, why is this?... Why the interval of the first integral is from 0 To 2, and then again that "2" appears in the integral?... I tried to calculate by means of order statistics but result didn't match

Does someone know how to prove this is actually the solution?... (I'm certain this is the correct solution, but I just want a more specific and justified procedure. I'm not familiarized with constant random variables)

Thanks in advance

I don't think that is the correct solution since:

Integral from 0 to 2 of Exp[-1/3 t]= -Exp[-1/3 t]-(1)=1-Exp[-1/3 t]

Therefore your solution should be:

E[X] = 2 [1-Exp[-1/3 t]] + Integral From 2 To Infinity [ t*f(t)dt ]
 
John Creighto said:
I don't think that is the correct solution since:

Integral from 0 to 2 of Exp[-1/3 t]= -Exp[-1/3 t]-(1)=1-Exp[-1/3 t]

Therefore your solution should be:

E[X] = 2 [1-Exp[-1/3 t]] + Integral From 2 To Infinity [ t*f(t)dt ]

I said that solution was

E[X] = Integral From 0 To 2 [ 2*f(t)dt ] + Integral From 2 To Infinity [ t*f(t)dt ]

Which is almost the same as you posted

It should be:

E[X] = 2 [1-Exp[-2/3]] + Integral From 2 To Infinity [ t*f(t)dt ]

Best Regards
 

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