Expectation values for Hydrogen

In summary, <p> = 0 for Hydrogen in the ground state due to the stationary nature of energy eigenstates. This holds true for any bound state with a constant potential. For unbound states, such as the energy eigenstates of a free particle, <p> = 0 would mean a break in rotational invariance, which is unreasonable. However, the expectation value of <p²> can still be non-zero.
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Ok, so I'm a little confused about why <p> = 0 for Hydrogen in the ground state. If someone explain the reasoning behind this, I'd greatly appreciate it.

Also, and more importantly, does that mean that <p> = 0 for Hydrogen in other states as well? If not, how would you go about finding <p> for these excited states. I've searched google to no avail.

Sorry if it's a stupid question, I'm new to the QM game.
 
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In general, <p> = 0 for any bound state of any potential (as long as the potential is constant in time). One way to convince yourself of this is to recall that <p> = d<x>/dt (Ehrenfest's theorem). But an energy eigenstate is a stationary state: all expectation values should be constant in time. Therefore 0 = d<x>/dt = <p>.

Determining where the above argument goes wrong for unbound states, such as the energy eigenstates of a free particle, is left as an exercise to the reader.
 
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think about what a non-vanishing expectation value <p> would mean; p is a vector-valued operator, so any non-vanishing momentum must necessarily break rotational invariance, it would mean that <p> points into some direction; but this is unreasonable for the ground state of a system with rotational invariance

of course for p² which is a scalar operator the expectation value <p²> is non-zero
 

1. What is the expectation value for the energy of the hydrogen atom?

The expectation value for the energy of the hydrogen atom is -13.6 electron volts (eV). This is the average energy of the electron in the ground state of the hydrogen atom.

2. How is the expectation value for the energy of the hydrogen atom calculated?

The expectation value for the energy of the hydrogen atom is calculated using the Schrödinger equation and the wave function of the electron in the hydrogen atom.

3. What is the significance of the expectation value for the energy of the hydrogen atom?

The expectation value for the energy of the hydrogen atom gives us insight into the average energy of the electron in the atom. It also helps us understand the stability and behavior of the hydrogen atom.

4. Is the expectation value for the energy of the hydrogen atom the same for all energy levels?

No, the expectation value for the energy of the hydrogen atom varies for different energy levels. It is highest for the ground state and decreases as the energy level increases.

5. Can the expectation value for the energy of the hydrogen atom be experimentally measured?

Yes, the expectation value for the energy of the hydrogen atom can be experimentally measured using spectroscopy techniques. These measurements can validate the theoretical calculations and provide further insight into the behavior of the hydrogen atom.

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