Explaining Electric Current Density and Conservation Law - Jeffrey

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The discussion revolves around the equation relating electric current density and the conservation of charge, specifically the surface integral of current density and its relation to the rate of change of enclosed charge. Participants are exploring the implications of the negative sign in the equation and its physical meaning.

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  • The original poster questions the significance of the negative sign in the equation and whether it can be disregarded. Some participants clarify the role of the outward normal in the surface integral and its relation to charge flow.

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Participants are actively engaging in clarifying the concepts surrounding the equation. Some have provided explanations regarding the interpretation of the terms involved, particularly the relationship between current flow and charge change, indicating a productive exchange of ideas.

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There appears to be some confusion regarding the interpretation of the equation and the physical implications of the terms, particularly in relation to the direction of current flow and charge conservation. This may reflect the complexities inherent in understanding conservation laws in electromagnetism.

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Couls someone explain the following equation to me:
[tex]\int \int_{surface} \vec{J} \cdot \vec{ds} = -\frac{\partial Q_{enclosed}}{\partial t},[/tex] where [tex]\vec{J_{v}}[/tex] is the electric current density. Question:
I am more confused with the term on the right side. The left side simply determines the current density on some surface, and that is why it is a surface integral.

But the right side says the surface has a negative current density. Why can't we just take the negative sign off, and assume if the resulting answer is less than the initial conditions, then the charge density in a particular region has decreased? Can someone either explain this to me, or provide an example.Thanks,Jeffrey
 
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It's because ds is the OUTWARD pointing normal of the surface. If the current flow is outward from the sphere then the left side is positive because J.ds is positive. But that corresponding to decreasing charge in the sphere.
 
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It's because ds is the OUTWARD pointing normal of the surface. If the current flow is outward from the sphere then the left side is positive because J.ds is positive. But that corresponding to decreasing charge in the sphere.

So the right term corresponds to how much charge from the enclosed surface has left per unit time t. Not how much charge remains in the closed surface after a unit time?
 
Yes, that's correct.

The charge that remains would simply be Qenclosed.
 

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