Explaining Everyday Phenomena with Newton's Third Law

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The discussion revolves around applying Newton's Third Law of Motion to everyday phenomena, specifically walking on a sidewalk and rocket acceleration in a vacuum. Participants explore the forces involved and the implications of action-reaction pairs.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the direction of forces exerted while walking and question the movement of the sidewalk relative to the Earth. They consider the implications of Newton's Third Law and the forces acting on both the person and the sidewalk.

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The conversation has progressed with participants engaging in reasoning about the forces involved in walking and the relationship between the sidewalk and the Earth. Some guidance has been offered regarding the application of Newton's Third Law, but no consensus has been reached on all aspects of the problem.

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Participants have noted the cancellation of gravity and normal force in their reasoning, indicating a focus on the net forces involved in the scenarios discussed.

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Use the third law of motion to explain why:
a) A person with ordinary shoes is able to walk on a sidewalk.
b) A rocket accelerates in the vacuum of outer space.

The 3rd law- for every action force, there is a reaction force equal in magnitude but opposite in direction.

I read over the textbook like 300 times..tell me where to start and i can go from there :|
 
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Well, for starters, when you walk, what direction would you say that you are exerting a force (because you are) on the sidewalk?
 
Char. Limit said:
Well, for starters, when you walk, what direction would you say that you are exerting a force (because you are) on the sidewalk?

umm..would you be exerting it on the sidewalk?..cause you're moving, the sidewalk isn't so, backwards..the opposite direction you're moving in? :S
 
xdeanna said:
umm..would you be exerting it on the sidewalk?..cause you're moving, the sidewalk isn't so, backwards..the opposite direction you're moving in? :S

The sidewalk does move. However, since its attached to basically the earth, the force you exert on the sidewalk is basically the force you exert on the Earth which, obviously, is minuscule so you don't see the sidewalk (aka earth) move.
 
xdeanna said:
umm..would you be exerting it on the sidewalk?..cause you're moving, the sidewalk isn't so, backwards..the opposite direction you're moving in? :S

Excellent. Now, apply Newton's Third Law of Motion to the equation. You are exertng a force on the sidewalk. What else must be going on?
 
Char. Limit said:
Excellent. Now, apply Newton's Third Law of Motion to the equation. You are exertng a force on the sidewalk. What else must be going on?

penguin said the sidewalk is moving D:

the sidewalk must be exerting an equal force on you..in the opposite direction, and then there's gravity and the normal force..
 
Ignore gravity and the normal force. They cancel each other out.

So, you have a net force on the sidewalk, and the sidewalk has an equal net force on you. Now, which one of you is more easily moved? You, or the Earth (via the sidewalk)?
 
Char. Limit said:
Ignore gravity and the normal force. They cancel each other out.

So, you have a net force on the sidewalk, and the sidewalk has an equal net force on you. Now, which one of you is more easily moved? You, or the Earth (via the sidewalk)?


you, because u don't notice the Earth moving
 
xdeanna said:
you, because u don't notice the Earth moving

And that's why you can move on a sidewalk.
 
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Char. Limit said:
And that's why you can move on a sidewalk.

thank youu :D
i got the second one already
 
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Nice.

And there you go... Application of Newton's Laws... I don't know what to say here...

Have a great day and a terrific Easter (it's still Easter here!)
 

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