Explanation to some observations

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around understanding various observations related to everyday phenomena, specifically focusing on the mechanisms behind anti-theft tags removal, the behavior of trolleys on cartveyors, and the force required to close a door in the presence of an exhaust fan. The scope includes conceptual explanations and exploratory reasoning.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the mechanism for removing anti-theft tags from clothes.
  • Another participant describes cartveyors in hypermarkets, noting that trolleys stick to them without requiring force, but does not elaborate on the mechanism.
  • Several participants discuss the force needed to close a door when an exhaust fan is operating, suggesting that air pressure plays a role in making it harder to close the door just before it fully shuts.
  • There is a mention of personal experiences with doors and air pressure, indicating that the direction in which the door opens may influence the force required to close it.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the first two observations, while there is some agreement on the explanation related to the door and exhaust fan, though the specifics of the force required remain somewhat contested.

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Some participants are unsure about the definitions and mechanisms related to the first two observations, which may limit the depth of the discussion. The explanation regarding the door and air pressure is based on personal experiences and may not cover all scenarios.

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Individuals interested in everyday physics, mechanics of objects, and the effects of air pressure in closed environments may find this discussion relevant.

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I need explanations of some observations -

1) How do they remove the anti-theft tags from clothes (mechanism behind it)?
2) How do trolleys no matter how heavy stick to a cartveyor?
3) Why do we need to apply more force to close the door (not throughout - just before complete closing) of a room in which there is an exhaust-fan (bathrooms usually)?
 
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Someone please answer atleast one.
 
I'm not sure of the 1st one, and I don't even know what the 2nd one is.

As for the 3rd, if the door closes from the inside, then you are pulling the door closes against a force of air trying to get in and out through the fan. My bedroom door will close itself when my AC unit is on in my house, as the air wants to get out of the door and will force it closed in the process.
 
Drakkith said:
I'm not sure of the 1st one, and I don't even know what the 2nd one is.

In hypermarkets (like Carrefour) that have different floors for shopping, there are cartveyors (analogous to escalators) to help move from one floor to another with heavy trolleys. You don't need to apply any force to hold these trolleys, they 'stick' to the cartveyor.

Drakkith said:
As for the 3rd, if the door closes from the inside, then you are pulling the door closes against a force of air trying to get in and out through the fan. My bedroom door will close itself when my AC unit is on in my house, as the air wants to get out of the door and will force it closed in the process.

The problem here is that you don't apply a constant force to close the door. You have to apply much more force just before closing. You will understand it clearly if you try it out.
 
Abdul Quadeer said:
The problem here is that you don't apply a constant force to close the door. You have to apply much more force just before closing. You will understand it clearly if you try it out.

Sorry, my two examples were opposites. Does your door open to the inside of the room or the outside?
 
Drakkith said:
Does your door open to the inside of the room or the outside?

Haha ...It opens to the inside of the room. Is that relevant? :confused:
 
Abdul Quadeer said:
Haha ...It opens to the inside of the room. Is that relevant? :confused:

If the fan is on, then you have to close the door against air pressure. It only has an effect right before the door closes. I'm guessing that's why it's hard to close.
 

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