Exploring Coherent States in the Quantum Oscillator

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around coherent states in the context of the quantum harmonic oscillator, focusing on their semiclassical properties, time evolution, and the nature of their representation within the Hilbert space of states.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants describe coherent states as saturating the Heisenberg uncertainty relation, suggesting they represent the most classical behavior possible in quantum mechanics.
  • Coherent states are identified as eigenstates of the annihilation operator, which some participants note as a defining characteristic.
  • It is proposed that coherent states can be generated by applying a specific operator from the Heisenberg group to the vacuum state.
  • There is a question about whether coherent states under the Hamiltonian of a harmonic oscillator remain coherent states for all time, with some participants affirming this notion.
  • Participants clarify that not all coherent states are identical; they form an overcomplete basis for the Hilbert space of states of the oscillator, meaning they can represent any state but are not mutually orthogonal.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the properties of coherent states and their representation in the Hilbert space, but there are questions regarding their time evolution and identity, indicating some unresolved aspects of the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the dependence on definitions of coherent states and the potential for varying interpretations of their properties and implications in different contexts.

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i've just encountered coherent states while studying the quantum oscillator, and I'm trying to understand some of the semiclassical properties of them. can someone give me a brief description of what they represent in the system and of how they vary in time?
 
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nolanp2 said:
i've just encountered coherent states while studying the quantum oscillator, and I'm trying to understand some of the semiclassical properties of them. can someone give me a brief description of what they represent in the system

In this case, coherent states can be described in three equivalent ways.

1) They saturate the Heisenberg uncertainty relation (i.e., minimize the simultaneous
uncertainty in position and momentum). One therefore says that they're "as classical
as possible".

2) They are eigenstates of the annihilation operator.

3) They can be generated by applying a certain operator from the Heisenberg
group to the vacuum state.

and of how they vary in time?
In simple cases, it often happens that coherent states evolve into
coherent states.

For a pedestrian amusing introduction to such things, try the old spr conversation
between Michael Weiss and John Baez on "Photons, Schmotons". It's available
in edited form at: http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/photon/schmoton.htm
 
so a coherent state under the hamiltonian of a harmonic oscillator will be a coherent state for all t? are all coherent states identical?
 
nolanp2 said:
so a coherent state under the hamiltonian of a harmonic
oscillator will be a coherent state for all t? are all coherent states identical?
They are not identical. The set of coherent states forms an (overcomplete) basis for the
Hilbert space of states of the oscillator. (I.e., any state in the Hilbert space can be
expressed as an integral over the coherent states. "Over"-complete means they are
not mutually orthogonal.)

Try Wikipedia for a bit more info.

If you have access to a University library, try the book by Mandel & Wolf
"Optical Coherence & Quantum Optics". Their section on coherent states
explains quite a lot of interesting stuff.
 

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