Can Polynomials in Two Variables Be Expressed in Different Forms?

Click For Summary
Polynomials in two variables can be expressed in different forms, similar to polynomials in one variable. A quadratic polynomial like Q(x,y) can represent various geometric figures such as circles, ellipses, hyperbolas, or parabolas when plotted on the X-Y plane. To determine the specific form, one can calculate the discriminant and rotate the coordinate system to eliminate cross terms, leading to a standard form for the geometric figure. However, factorization of the polynomial Q(x,y) into a product of linear factors is complex and does not have a general solution due to the nature of the resulting equations in the (p,q,r) space. The discussion highlights the challenges in finding a consistent intersection of these equations, suggesting that while alternative forms exist, factorization remains intricate.
Jhenrique
Messages
676
Reaction score
4
If a polynomial of 1 variable, for example: P(x) = ax²+bx+c, can be written as P(x) = a(x-x1)(x-x2), so a polynomial of 2 variables like: Q(x,y) = ax²+bxy+cy²+dx+ey+f can be written of another form?
 
Mathematics news on Phys.org
You have a quadratic in two variables; if you plot it on the X-Y plane it will be a circle, ellipse, hyperbola, parabola, or a pair of lines. You can discover which by writing it in standard form and then calculating the discriminant:
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/QuadraticCurveDiscriminant.html

Once you know the form you can rotate the coordinate system so that the cross terms disappear; use the vanishing of the cross term coefficient as the constraint.

Then put it into "standard form" for the particular geometric figure.

For a circle it will be (u-h)^2/r^2 + (v-g)^2/r^2 = 1, and similar for the other cases.
 
Actually, I'm asking if is possible to factorize the polynomial Q(x,y)!?
 
<br /> (px + qy + r)(sx + ty + u) = psx^2 + (pt + qs)xy + qty^2 + (pu + rs)x + (qu + rt)y + ru<br />

That gives you six equations in six unknowns.

There is no general solution, because you can pretty quickly eliminate s = a/p, t = c/q and u = f/r to end up with <br /> cp^2 + aq^2 = bpq \\<br /> fp^2 + ar^2 = dpr \\<br /> fq^2 + cr^2 = eqr. These are cylinders in (p,q,r) space whose cross-sections are conic sections in the (p,q), (p,r) and (q,r) planes respectively. There is no reason why these should all intersect (it's pretty easy to arrange three such cylinders of circular cross-section so that they don't intersect), and if they do all intersect they may do so at multiple points.
 
Last edited:
pasmith said:
<br /> (px + qy + r)(sx + ty + u) = psx^2 + (pt + qs)xy + qty^2 + (pu + rs)x + (qu + rt)y + ru<br />

That gives you six equations in six unknowns.

There is no general solution, because you can pretty quickly eliminate s = a/p, t = c/q and u = f/r to end up with <br /> cp^2 + aq^2 = bpq \\<br /> fp^2 + ar^2 = dpr \\<br /> fq^2 + cr^2 = eqr. These are cylinders in (p,q,r) space whose cross-sections are conic sections in the (p,q), (p,r) and (q,r) planes respectively. There is no reason why these should all intersect (it's pretty easy to arrange three such cylinders of circular cross-section so that they don't intersect), and if they do all intersect they may do so at multiple points.

Nice!

I thought in something like this:
##Q(x,y) = A(x-a)(x-b) + B(x-c)(y-d) + C(y-e)(y-f)##

Do you have more ideias??
 
Here is a little puzzle from the book 100 Geometric Games by Pierre Berloquin. The side of a small square is one meter long and the side of a larger square one and a half meters long. One vertex of the large square is at the center of the small square. The side of the large square cuts two sides of the small square into one- third parts and two-thirds parts. What is the area where the squares overlap?

Similar threads

  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
3K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
1K
  • · Replies 16 ·
Replies
16
Views
5K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
1K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
2K
Replies
1
Views
4K
Replies
3
Views
1K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
2
Views
1K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K