Exploring the Relationship between Buoyancy Force and Gravitational Force

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The discussion revolves around understanding the relationship between buoyancy force and gravitational force for two bodies made of the same material, one submerged in water and the other in air. The body in water has a mass 2.4 times greater than the one in air, leading to a buoyancy force that is also 2.4 times greater. The key question is whether the buoyancy force of the submerged body is greater than, less than, or equal to the gravitational force of the body in air. Participants emphasize the importance of drawing free body diagrams to visualize the forces acting on each mass. Ultimately, it is concluded that the buoyancy force of the body in water is greater than the gravitational force of the body in air.
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Picture below. Both bodies are made of same material but the body placed in water had 2.4 times greater mass. What is the relationship between buoyancy Force and gravitational force between body in water and body in air?
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F(buoyancy) = density(of fluid) * g * Volume(of object), F(gravitational) = m * g
Picture below. Both bodies are made of same material but the body placed in water had 2.4 times greater mass. What is the relationship between buoyancy Force and gravitational force between body in water and body in air?I have no clue how to solve this.
I know that body with greater mass has 2.4 times greater buoyancy Force, 2.4 times greater mass and gr. force, 2.4 larger volume. But I don't know how to solve the problem.

The worst thing is that I only need to answer if F(buoyancy) of body in water is <, =, > than gravitational force of body in air or if there is not enough data to answer the question.
Answer at the end of textbook is F(buoyancy) of body in water > F(gravitational) of body in air.

if some can please explain I'd be very grateful.
Thank you.
 

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What can you infer from the fact that the scale is in equilibrium? What is the relationship between the net forces acting on the two bodies?
 
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nasu said:
What can you infer from the fact that the scale is in equilibrium? What is the relationship between the net forces acting on the two bodies?
well, I guess that Fb+Fg1 = Fg2, but I still don't get it.
 
Callmelucky said:
well, I guess that Fb+Fg1 = Fg2
Don't guess. Draw two free body diagrams, one for each mass, and show all the forces acting on the mass in each diagram.
 
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kuruman said:
Don't guess. Draw two free body diagrams, one for each mass, and show all the forces acting on the mass in each diagram.
🤦‍♂️🙆‍♂️ How stupid I am. I got it. Thank you.
I didn't solve enough problems with drawing forces, so I don't have that habit.
I will have to fix that.
 
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Callmelucky said:
🤦‍♂️🙆‍♂️ How stupid I am. I got it. Thank you.
I didn't solve enough problems with drawing forces, so I don't have that habit.
I will have to fix that.
I'm glad that you got it.
 
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