Exploring the Topological Cross Section in Experimental Quantum Physics

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The discussion revolves around the concept of "topological cross section" in experimental quantum physics, particularly its distinction from differential cross section and total cross section. Participants explore definitions, relationships, and implications of these terms within the context of Feynman diagrams and particle interactions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the topological cross section refers to the total cross section for reactions with a specific number of outgoing lines.
  • Others propose a relationship where the total cross section is the sum of the topological cross sections for different numbers of outgoing lines, indicating a focus on visible or charged lines.
  • A participant questions the validity of counting only particles exceeding a certain momentum, suggesting it could lead to variability in the cross section value.
  • Another participant introduces a definition indicating that the topological cross section is not corrected for possible meson resonances produced in intermediate stages before observing final particles.
  • There is a discussion about the nature of Feynman diagrams, with some asserting that all diagrams are topologically different, while others challenge the implications of this statement.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the definitions and implications of topological cross sections, with no consensus reached on their exact meaning or relationship to other types of cross sections.

Contextual Notes

Some statements rely on specific interpretations of terms and may depend on the context of particle interactions and Feynman diagram representations. The discussion includes assumptions about the visibility of lines and the impact of momentum thresholds on cross section values.

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Hello,

I've found in some of the articles on experimental quantum physics the term "Topological cross section"
Now I'm trying to understand what is it and in particular what the difference between topological and differential cross section?

Thanks in advance for suggestions on any reading materials.
 
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I believe it means the total cross section for reactions with n outgoing lines.
 
Bill_K said:
I believe it means the total cross section for reactions with n outgoing lines.

I'm not sure if I understand you right. Can you please give me a relationship between total cross section and topological cross section.
 
From what I gather, the total cross section σ is the sum over n of the topological cross sections σn. Again, σn is the total cross section (i.e. integrated over angles) of all reactions with n outgoing lines. It looks like they count only visible (charged) lines and/or just the ones that exceed a given momentum.
 
May be it is just another word used,because in drawing feynman diagrams one use only those diagrams which are topologically different.
 
May be it is just another word used,because in drawing feynman diagrams one use only those diagrams which are topologically different.
:confused: Every Feynman diagram is topologically different. And every process comes from an infinite number of different Feynman diagrams.
 
Bill_K said:
: Every Feynman diagram is topologically different.
in drawing feynman diagrams one use only those diagrams which are topologically different.
Do you find contradication between these two statements?
 
Bill_K said:
From what I gather, the total cross section σ is the sum over n of the topological cross sections σn. Again, σn is the total cross section (i.e. integrated over angles) of all reactions with n outgoing lines. It looks like they count only visible (charged) lines and/or just the ones that exceed a given momentum.
Well, your guess about counting only charged particles I can understand, but counting only ones that exceed any given momentum can't be true. In this case the value of this cross section would greatly depend on which momentum they will take.
 
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andrien said:
May be it is just another word used,because in drawing feynman diagrams one use only those diagrams which are topologically different.
I think it's not that simple. "digitool.library.mcgill.ca/thesisfile74351.pdf" I found the following definition of this term:
The term topological cross section means that the cross section is not corrected for any production of possible meson resonances that might be produced in an intermediate stage before we observe the final six (four) pions.
Thought I didn't understand it yet. :smile:
 
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