Exponential operator multiplication

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The discussion revolves around the manipulation of exponential operators in quantum mechanics, specifically involving the expression e^{\hat{U^{\dagger}}}\hat{A}e^{\hat{U}}. The original poster expresses difficulty in recalling how to combine operators within exponentials and seeks guidance on the topic.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of Taylor expansion for the exponential function and the implications of representing operators as power series. There is also a focus on the specific operators involved, with questions about the nature of the operators A and U.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on using the Taylor expansion and an exponential identity that may simplify the problem. The original poster acknowledges their limited progress and expresses uncertainty about their understanding, indicating a need for further clarification and exploration of the topic.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions a lack of recent experience with quantum mechanics and expresses concern about their ability to tackle the problem, which may influence their approach and confidence in the discussion.

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1. I have a fairly straight forward problem (or basically, i need help to just get started on my problem), i have forgotten all my QM and am in a "bit" over my head here. Basically i am having problems remembering how one would go about treating operators that are inside exponentials.



2. So i have [tex]e^{\hat{U^{\dagger}}}\hat{A}e^{\hat{U}}[/tex] and basically was just wondering how one combines the A and U operator in some way



3. I honestly didn't get very far, looking through some of the basic coursebooks for QM i didn't find it at least in an obvious place (as in where they explain the basic properties of operators) and looking around/googling etc the closest i got was to represent it as a power series, i tried writing that out and see if it got me somewhere but i couldn't see how it was suppose to help me (although I'm sure it should).
 
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Use the Taylor Expansion of exp with the U-operator as argument.

[tex]\mathrm{e}^{x} = \sum^{\infin}_{n=0} \frac{x^n}{n!} = 1 + x + \frac{x^2}{2!} + \frac{x^3}{3!} + \cdots[/tex]
 
Thanks, i had kind of gotten that far (as noted in 3, perhaps it's not called power series, sorry about that). Guess i got it right but I'm just not good enough to go from there lol, well at least i know that's definitely what i should be working with, cheers!
 
Is there a particular A and U that you have in mind?
 
Yes, didn't mention it since i figured i'd try to just get a boost here and finish on my own, but the actual thing looks like this:

[tex]e^{-i\theta \hat{J}^{\dagger}}\big(\frac{\hat{a_{0}}}{\hat{a_{1}]} \big) e^{i\theta \hat{J}}[/tex]

I can't find the command for vector notation so i had to use \frac, but that's not a fraction, it's a vector

[tex]\hat{J}=(\hat{a_{0}}^{\dagger}\hat{a_{1}]+\hat{a_{1}}^{\dagger}\hat{a_{0}})/2[/tex]

where [tex]a_0[/tex] and [tex]a_1[/tex] (and the daggers that is) are the creation and annihilation operators.

I tried writing it out and seeing what happens when the operators J and a get multiplied, but I'm honestly horrible at this, it was probably a mistake taking this course seeing as how it's been over 2 years since i last even looked in a quantum book and wasn't that great to begin with hah, but there you go, might as well stick it out as i can't opt out anymore.
 
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\vec{your vector}

Why don't you show us a bit of your attempt to solution?

It is required to get help you know..
 
I would if i had much to show :) I'm afraid I'm fairly clueless, like i mentioned i had only gotten so far as writing the exponential operator out in a power series, and also writing out explicitly the a operators multiplying with a single J operator in hopes that it would give me some insight, but no luck. But don't worry about it, the class is today so it's too late anyway :) Thanks though, i really do appreciate the help given so far.
 
There's an exponential identity that you can use instead of expanding it all out.

[tex] e^{\hat{-\hat{B}}}\hat{A}e^{\hat{B}} = \hat{A} + [A,B] + 1/2![A,[A,B]] + 1/3![A,[A,[A,B]]] + ...[/tex]

Because often times, the dagger of a unitary operator is just the negative of it. And the brackets denote the commutator. In many problems, the commutator [A,B] = scalar so only the first two terms are non-zero since [A,(any constant)] = 0.
 

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