Exponents and exponential functions

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The discussion revolves around solving equations involving exponents and exponential functions. Participants are addressing three specific problems, each presenting unique challenges related to the manipulation of exponential expressions.

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  • Participants explore various algebraic manipulations to solve the equations, such as equating exponents and factoring. Some express uncertainty about the validity of their approaches, particularly regarding assumptions about the values of variables.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing insights and corrections to each other's reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the laws of exponents and the nature of quadratic equations, but no consensus has been reached on the solutions.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the setup of the equations and the implications of certain algebraic steps. Participants are also reminded of the importance of not dividing by variables without knowing their values.

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Please note, there are more questions than what I'm going to give, in total I'll be giving 3. I hope to use the information with the others.

1)

Homework Statement


Solve the equation:
[tex]5^{1-2x} = \frac{1}{5}[/tex]

Homework Equations


None

The Attempt at a Solution


I was thinking that to make live easier, to put the entire fraction up to the first power. From there, I would use algebra in the sense of:
[tex]1-2x=1[/tex]
[tex]-2x=0[/tex]
To get x = 0. But, that doesn't seem to be possible, since the exponent must turn out to be negative.

2)

Homework Statement


Solve the Equation:
[tex]8^{x^{2} - 2x}} = \frac{1}{2}[/tex]

Homework Equations


None

The Attempt at a Solution


For this one, I was thinking of setting the fraction equal to 1, then factoring that out to get two answers:
[tex]x^2 - 2x = 1[/tex] [tex]x^2 - 2x - 1 = 0[/tex]
But, then I'm stuck there.

3)

Homework Statement


Solve the equation:
[tex]e^{x^2} = (e^{3x})(\frac{1}{e^2})[/tex]

Homework Equations


None

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm completely clueless on this one.
 
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carbz said:
Please note, there are more questions than what I'm going to give, in total I'll be giving 3. I hope to use the information with the others.

1)

Homework Statement


Solve the equation:
[tex]5^{1-2x} = \frac{1}{5}[/tex]


Homework Equations


None
Actually a very relevant equation, or, more correctly, statement, would be "if ax= ay then x= y" (the exponential functions are "one-to-one").

The Attempt at a Solution


I was thinking that to make live easier, to put the entire fraction up to the first power. From there, I would use algebra in the sense of:
[tex]1-2x=1[/tex]
[tex]-2x=0[/tex]
To get x = 0. But, that doesn't seem to be possible, since the exponent must turn out to be negative.
[itex]\frac{1}{5}= 5^{-1}[/itex] not 51

2)

Homework Statement


Solve the Equation:
[tex]8^{x^{2} - 2x}} = \frac{1}{2}[/tex]


Homework Equations


None

The Attempt at a Solution


For this one, I was thinking of setting the fraction equal to 1, then factoring that out to get two answers:
[tex]x^2 - 2x = 1[/tex] [tex]x^2 - 2x - 1 = 0[/tex]
But, then I'm stuck there.
8= 23 so [itex]8^{x^2- 2x}= 2^{3(x^2- 2x)}[/itex]

3)

Homework Statement


Solve the equation:
[tex]e^{x^2} = (e^{3x})(\frac{1}{e^2})[/tex]


Homework Equations


None


The Attempt at a Solution


I'm completely clueless on this one.
Learn the "laws of exponents": (ax)y= axy (used in 2 above) and axay[/sup]= ax+y.
Here, [itex]e^{3x}(\frac{1}{e^2}= (e^{3x})(e^{-x})= e^{3x-x}= e^{2x}[/itex]. Your equation is [itex]e^{x^2}= e^{x}[/itex] so x2= x.
 
All right. For the first one, I see where you went from there. I got the answer to that to be [tex]x=1[/tex].

HallsofIvy said:
8= 23 so [itex]8^{x^2- 2x}= 2^{3(x^2- 2x)}[/itex]

Ok, so with the exponents, that would be [tex]3(x^2 - 2x) = 1[/tex]. Then, factoring out an x would make it: 3x(x-2) =1 . Dividing it would cause the equation to look like: [tex]x-2 = \frac{1}{3x}[/tex] Then [tex]-2 = \frac{-2}{3x}[/tex] then [tex]-6x = -2[/tex] then finally I get [tex]x = \frac{1}{3}[/tex]. Is that correct?
HallsofIvy said:
Learn the "laws of exponents": (ax)y= axy (used in 2 above) and axay= ax+y.
Here, [itex]e^{3x}(\frac{1}{e^2}= (e^{3x})(e^{-x})= e^{3x-x}= e^{2x}[/itex]. Your equation is [itex]e^{x^2}= e^{x}[/itex] so x2= x.

Ok, since that is so, the answer could only be either 0 or 1, since both when squared equal what it orginally was.
 
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carbz said:
All right. For the first one, I see where you went from there. I got the answer to that to be [tex]x=1[/tex].



Ok, so with the exponents, that would be [tex]3(x^2 - 2x) = 1[/tex]. Then, factoring out an x would make it: 3x(x-2) =1 .

[tex]\frac{1}{2}=2^{-1}[/tex] not 21

Dividing it would cause the equation to look like: [tex]x-2 = \frac{1}{3x}[/tex] Then [tex]-2 = \frac{-2}{3x}[/tex] then [tex]-6x = -2[/tex] then finally I get [tex]x = \frac{1}{3}[/tex]. Is that correct?

This is a quadratic equation, and so will have two solutions. In solving it, you should put the equation in the familliar form, and use the quadratic formula:
[tex]x=\frac{-b\pm \sqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a}[/tex]. In particular, you cannot divide by x, since you do not know it's value (it could be zero.)


Ok, since that is so, the answer could only be either 0 or 1, since both when squared equal what it orginally was.

Actually, I think HallsofIvy carried a typo through the below calculation:

HallsofIvy said:
Learn the "laws of exponents": (ax)y= axy (used in 2 above) and axay[/sup]= ax+y.
Here, [itex]e^{3x}(\frac{1}{e^2})= (e^{3x})(e^{-x})= e^{3x-x}= e^{2x}[/itex]. Your equation is [itex]e^{x^2}= e^{x}[/itex] so x2= x.


It should read:
[tex]e^{3x}(\frac{1}{e^2})= (e^{3x})(e^{-2})= e^{3x-2}[/tex] which gives your equation [itex]e^{x^2}=e^{3x-2}[/itex] giving [itex]x^2=3x-2[/itex]. This can again be solved as a quadratic equation.
 
carbz said:
All right. For the first one, I see where you went from there. I got the answer to that to be [tex]x=1[/tex].



Ok, so with the exponents, that would be [tex]3(x^2 - 2x) = 1[/tex]. Then, factoring out an x would make it: 3x(x-2) =1 . Dividing it would cause the equation to look like: [tex]x-2 = \frac{1}{3x}[/tex] Then [tex]-2 = \frac{-2}{3x}[/tex] then [tex]-6x = -2[/tex] then finally I get [tex]x = \frac{1}{3}[/tex]. Is that correct?
How did you manage to go from [itex]x-2= \frac{1}{3x}[itex]to [itex]-2= \frac{-2}{3x}[/itex]? [itex]3(x^2- 2x)= 1[/itex] is a quadratic equation, as Cristo says. In "standard form" it is [itex]3x^2- 6x- 1= 0[/itex].<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Ok, since that is so, the answer could only be either 0 or 1, since both when squared equal what it orginally was. </div> </div> </blockquote> Unfortunately, as Cristo said, I misread [itex]\frac{1}{e^2}[/itex] as [itex]\frac{1}{e^{2x}}[itex]. Check what he wrote.[/itex][/itex][/itex][/itex]
 

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