Expression for the force on a particle

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The problem involves a particle of mass m at rest at t=0, with its momentum given by Px=6t^2 kg m/s for t>0. The task is to find an expression for the force Fx(t) exerted on the particle as a function of time, utilizing the relationship between momentum and force.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between momentum and force, referencing Newton's second law. There is an exploration of the differentiation of momentum to find force, with some questioning whether additional components of momentum are necessary for the problem.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered hints regarding the differentiation of momentum to find force, while others express uncertainty about the simplicity of the problem and its context within their coursework. There is an acknowledgment of varying expectations regarding calculus knowledge among students.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem may have been perceived as trivial or challenging depending on the expected level of calculus familiarity. There is a mention of the problem being part of a set of more difficult problems at the end of a chapter.

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Homework Statement


A particle of mass m is at rest at t=0. Its momentum for t>0 is given by Px=6t^2 kg m/s, where t is in s. Find an expression for Fx(t), the force exerted on the particle as a function of time.


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Px=MVx

The Attempt at a Solution



The question seems really simple but momentum confuses me. I know that momentum is related to the area under the Fx(t)curve between Ti and Tf by Pfx-Pix or the change in momentum, but I don't know where to go from there. Something to get me headed in the right direction would be greatly appreciated!
 
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Hint: Newton's second law states that:

[tex]\vec{F} = \frac{d \vec{p}}{dt}[/tex]
 
so then it would be F=12t. That seems a little too easy. When they say Px would I also have to find Py in order to find the mag of P?
 
Nightrider55 said:
so then it would be F=12t. That seems a little too easy.

Maybe it is. What level of physics are you taking? Is it calculus-based? It's clear that you already know how to differentiate. If your prof expected you to be familar with calculus and to be aware that F = dp/dt was the true (most general) form of Newton's law, then yes, he has assigned a trivial problem. However, if you prof did not expect you to be familiar with calculus or F = dp/dt, then maybe he thought he had given you a stumper.

By the way, WERE you aware that F = dp/dt before I told you? If not, can you see that F = ma follows from this relation provided the mass of the particle is constant?

Nightrider55 said:
When they say Px would I also have to find Py in order to find the mag of P?

No. Why would you? They don't ask you for P or Py. They only ask for Px.
 
cepheid said:
Maybe it is. What level of physics are you taking? Is it calculus-based? It's clear that you already know how to differentiate. If your prof expected you to be familar with calculus and to be aware that F = dp/dt was the true (most general) form of Newton's law, then yes, he has assigned a trivial problem. However, if you prof did not expect you to be familiar with calculus or F = dp/dt, then maybe he thought he had given you a stumper.

By the way, WERE you aware that F = dp/dt before I told you? If not, can you see that F = ma follows from this relation provided the mass of the particle is constant?



No. Why would you? They don't ask you for P or Py. They only ask for Px.

I am in calculus physics and I talked to my teacher and he didn't realize that he assigned such an easy problem :smile:

I was aware that F = dp/dt before you told me but I didn't use it because I thought I was missing something because it seemed too simple of a problem considering it was among the more difficult problems at the end of the chapter.
 

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