Extracting a matrix from a curl operation

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The discussion revolves around the extraction of a 3x3 matrix [C] from the curl operation involving a 3x1 vector [B] and a 3x3 matrix [A]. It is established that attempts to derive [C] from specific forms of [A] do not yield consistent results, indicating a lack of a general solution. The participants conclude that if simple matrices do not provide valid solutions for [C], then it is likely that no solution exists for general matrices [A]. The only potential solution identified is the trivial case where [A] is a scalar multiple of the identity matrix. Ultimately, the discussion confirms the complexity of the problem and the limitations in finding a non-trivial solution.
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Hello,

I would like to know if it is possible (and the solution, if known, please!) to extract a 3x3 matrix [A] from a curl operation. Specifically, if B is a 3x1 (column) vector,

∇x([A]B) = [C](∇xB)

What is the value of tensor [C]? Would [C] be a 3x3 matrix as well, or a different rank tensor? Can I express [C] in terms of [A]?

Thanks!
 
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The equations are linear, I think you can just take individual components of [A] and see if it works.
 
Hi mfb,

I've tried that, and unfortunately come up with no solution. I'm wondering of there's some sort of mathemagical trick I've never heard of :)

Thanks
 
What did you get as attempt for
A=
1 0 0
0 0 0
0 0 0

and
A=
0 0 0
1 0 0
0 0 0
?

If both give some corresponding C, it works (based on linearity and symmetry), otherwise it does not work for general matrices A (trivial).
 
mfb said:
If both give some corresponding C, it works (based on linearity and symmetry), otherwise it does not work for general matrices A (trivial).

They don't give the same result, so I guess there is no general solution. Am I correct in interpreting that this also means that any variation of A cannot be solved for? (For example, if A were diagonal).

Thanks
 
The same result? They should not give the same result. Different results are fine.
 
Sorry, to clarify, I meant that inserting your suggested [A] matrices both do not give a valid solution for [C]. I'm concluding that if these simple matrices can't be solved for, then it is correct that there is no solution.

Thanks
 
Okay, I checked it, and there is no solution. It does not work for general matrices A, and I am not sure if there are any solutions apart from the trivial one (A=a*identity matrix).
 

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