F(11) = 11, f(x + 3) = (11-1) / (11 + 1)

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The discussion revolves around determining the function f(x) given specific values and a functional equation. The original poster presents the conditions f(11) = 11 and f(x + 3) = (11 - 1) / (11 + 1), leading to the inquiry about f(2000).

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the implications of the given functional equation and attempt to derive values for f at specific points. There are discussions about manipulating the equation and finding patterns in the function.

Discussion Status

Multiple interpretations of the functional equation are being explored, with some participants suggesting that it leads to a repeating form. Others express confusion regarding the lack of general information about the function.

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Participants note that the problem originates from The Mathematics Student Journal and that the original question involved solving for f(1979) before it was changed to f(2000). There is acknowledgment of missing information that complicates the discussion.

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1. I'm having some trouble finding what f(x) should be to complete the desired result.



2. If f(11) = 11 and f(x + 3) = (11 - 1) / (11 + 1) , f(2000) = ?



The Attempt at a Solution



f(11) = 11

f(8 + 3) = (f(8) - 1) / (f(8) + 1) = 11

I'm lost from there...
 
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charbon said:
1. I'm having some trouble finding what f(x) should be to complete the desired result.



2. If f(11) = 11 and f(x + 3) = (11 - 1) / (11 + 1) , f(2000) = ?



The Attempt at a Solution



f(11) = 11

f(8 + 3) = (f(8) - 1) / (f(8) + 1) = 11

I'm lost from there...

Multiply the denominator on the left by the term on the right, distribute terms and solve for f(8).

What is the overall problem statement?
 
Thanks for the reply,

I tried multiplying both ways with the denominator, it's finding something that works with f(8) that's the problem.

This is the whole problem statement. It comes from an issue of The Mathematics Student Journal where you had to solve for f(1979) but it was changed to f(2000).
 
charbon said:
2. If f(11) = 11 and f(x + 3) = (11 - 1) / (11 + 1) , f(2000) = ?

I'm confused. If f(x + 3) = (11 - 1) / (11 + 1), then f(x+3) = 10/12. It's a constant
from what you've done. i guess it should be f(x+3) = [f(x) - 1] / [f(x) + 1]

If so, you can find f (14), then f(17), then f(20), then f(23), so on..
It will be a repeating form. Try it first ^^
 
songoku said:
I'm confused. If f(x + 3) = (11 - 1) / (11 + 1), then f(x+3) = 10/12. It's a constant
from what you've done. i guess it should be f(x+3) = [f(x) - 1] / [f(x) + 1]

If so, you can find f (14), then f(17), then f(20), then f(23), so on..
It will be a repeating form. Try it first ^^

Oh oops, sorry about that mistake.

I guess I should have tried looking for a pattern in the beginning. Thanks a lot for your help. :)
 
There's something missing here.

f(11) = 11
f(x + 3) = 5/6
f(2000) = ?

You're never told anything at all about the function in general.
 
flatmaster said:
There's something missing here.

f(11) = 11
f(x + 3) = 5/6
f(2000) = ?

You're never told anything at all about the function in general.

The information is enough to solve the problem.

songoku said:
If so, you can find f (14), then f(17), then f(20), then f(23), so on..
It will be a repeating form. Try it first ^^
 

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