Factor and simplify (PREcalculus)

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The discussion revolves around a problem in precalculus involving the factorization and simplification of the expression (x^2-4)((x^2+3)^1/2) - ((x^2-4)^2) ((x^2+3)^3/2). The original poster is preparing for a precalculus class and seeks assistance in simplifying the expression.

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  • The original poster attempts to factor (x^2-4) and recognizes it can be expressed as (x-2)(x+2). They also identify common factors in the expression but struggle with the subtraction and overall simplification. Some participants question the original poster's understanding of factoring and provide corrections regarding the process of factoring out terms. Others suggest rearranging the expression to identify common factors.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing feedback and corrections. The original poster acknowledges their misunderstanding and expresses progress towards a solution. There is a suggestion of a potential final expression, but no consensus on a complete resolution has been reached. Additional resources for practice are also being explored.

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The original poster notes that this problem is part of a review section in their precalculus book, indicating a desire for more practice problems of similar difficulty. They express frustration with the availability of resources that match their current level of understanding.

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Hello,

First time poster here. After lurking about the forums for a couple days I feel as if this question may be overly rudimentary; regardless, I'm stuck. This is not a homework assignment but preparation for an upcoming precalculus class.

(x^2-4)((x^2+3)^1/2) - ((x^2-4)^2) ((x^2+3)^3/2) - Factor and simplify

I understand that (x^2-4) by itself can be broken down to (x-2)(x+2). However I don't think that is getting me anywhere. Beyond that, I know that obviously (x^2-4) is a factor of ((x^2-4)^2) as well as ((x^2+3)^1/2) being a factor of ((x^2+3)^3/2).

With that said, I would rearrange to (x^2-4)(1+(x^2-4)) and ((x^2+3)^1/2)(1+(x^2-4)). Outside of that, I am lost. I realize that I'm seemingly ignoring that subtraction sign there, but in all honesty, I just don't know how to make it fit.

Any help would be appreciated.
 
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You appear to be making a major error. You seem to think that if you factor a term out of an expression, it leaves "1+ " the rest of the expression. That is not true. If you factor "a" out of "ab", all that is left is "b", not "1+ b".

Yes, you have x^2- 4 in one term and (x^2- 4)^2 in the other so there is a "x^2- 4 in both and you can take that out leaving (x^2+ 3)^{1/2}- (x^2- 4)(x^2+ 3)^{3/2}/ And (x^2+ 3)^{3/2}= (x^2+ 3)(x^2+ 3)^{1/2}[/tex] so each term has a &quot;(x^2+ 3)^{1/2} that can be factored out, leaving (1- (x^2- 4)(x^2+ 3)^{1/2} <br /> <br /> That is, (x^2- 4)(x^2+ 3)^{1/2}- (x^2- 4)^2(x^2+ 3)^{3/2}= (x^2- 4)(x^2- 3)^{1/2}(1- x^2- 4(x^2+ 3)^{1/2}<br /> And now you can factor x^2- 4.
 
Thank you for the swift reply.

I definitely understand the mistake I was making. For some reason the subtraction in the middle threw me off. You put me in the right direction. I eventually came to the following:

[(x^2-4)(x^2+3)^{1/2}]-[(x^2-4)^2(x^2+3)^{3/2}]

((x^2-4)(x^2+3)^{1/2})(1-(x^2-4)(x^2+3))

((x^2-4)(x^2+3)^{1/2})(1-x^4+x^2+12)

With a final answer of

((x+2)(x-2)(x^2+3)^{1/2})(-x^4+x^2+13) which is what the book agrees with.

This problem was in the review section (prerequisite) of my precalculus book. Unfortunately, it being a review, there isn't much more of it's kind. Everything problem before and after it I seem to have a very good grounding in. Does anyone have any suggestion of a website or program where I can practice multiple problems of this type? I've checked Khan Academy already. He doesn't seem to have anything quite like the above in his practice exercises; they are either too easy or too advanced (for me at this time).
 
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Something like http://www.coolmath.com/crunchers/algebra-problems-factoring-by-grouping.htm perhaps?
 
Thanks for the suggestion; I didn't know about that site. Unfortunately, unless I'm missing something, I run into the same issue as with Khan Academy. These sample problems are extremely simple. I'm looking for something where you actually factor out whole binomials (as well as positive/negative exponents). I understand the basic concept is the same in either case, but I still seem to be having issues here and there...
 
For instance:

Problems like x^{-3/2} - 2x^{-1/2} + x^{1/2} are extremely simple for me, whereas problems such as (x^2+1)^{1/2} - 10(x^2+1)^{-1/2} are hit or miss and always confuse me somewhere in the process. I know I'm missing something very simple somewhere in the process, but it eludes me.
 
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Conzen said:
For instance:

Problems like (x^-3/2) - (2x^-1/2) + (x^1/2) are extremely simple for me, whereas problems such as ((x^2+1)^1/2) - 10((x^2+1)^-1/2) are hit or miss and always confuse me somewhere in the process. I know I'm missing something very simple somewhere in the process, but it eludes me.
When doing LaTeX: To include more than one character in an exponent, enclose it in braces, { } .

As in x^{-3/2} which LaTeX renders as x^{-3/2} \ .
 
Thanks for that.
 

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