Factoring Problem: Error in Homework Statement?

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The discussion revolves around a factoring problem presented in a homework statement, which some participants believe may contain an error. The original poster attempts to verify the correctness of a proposed solution by substituting a specific value into the equation.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants express confusion regarding the clarity of the problem statement, particularly due to the visibility of the problem image and the use of the ":" symbol. There are attempts to clarify the meaning of the symbol and its implications for the solution. Some participants share their own attempts at solving the problem, while others question the steps taken and the interpretations of the expressions involved.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations being explored. Some participants have provided insights into their reasoning and approaches, while others have pointed out potential mistakes in calculations. There is a recognition of differing views on the solution, but no explicit consensus has been reached.

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Participants note that the symbol ":" has been used in different contexts, leading to confusion. There is also mention of a specific value substitution that raises questions about the validity of the proposed solution.

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Homework Statement



http://alphacapitalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/factoringproblem.jpg

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The Attempt at a Solution



I tried factoring this but it seems to me that author has made an error somewhere. Either solution to this problem is not 1/a-1 or there is error in the problem itself. Why? Well i tried putting a=2 and using author's solution i should get 1 but when i put it in the problem get 1.714. Any thoughts?
 
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I have no clue what this is supposed to be. For one thing it is too small and too dark to read well. Also, there is a symbol between the last two terms inside the parentheses that looks like ":". What does that mean?
 
":" means divided.

Maybe this will help:
(3/a-1 - 3a^2+3a+3/a^2-1 : a^4 - a/a^3 +1) * a - a^2/3

And the solution is 1/a-1
 
I did it and got [itex]\frac{1}{a-1}[/itex].

First I would get rid of the divide then remember that [itex]a^3 -1 = (a-1)(a^2 + a + 1)[/itex]

See how you go from there.
 
Where do you see a^3 - 1?
 
Why don't you start by showing what you tried to solve the problem??
 
Government$ said:
":" means divided.

Maybe this will help:
(3/a-1 - 3a^2+3a+3/a^2-1 : a^4 - a/a^3 +1) * a - a^2/3

And the solution is 1/a-1

That is incorrect: the answer is 1/(a-1), not (1/a)-1, which is what your written expression means.

RGV
 
Government$ said:
Where do you see a^3 - 1?

[itex]a^4 - a = a(a^3 - 1)[/itex]
 
Here is my stab at it:

([itex]\frac{3}{a-1} - \frac{3a^2+3a+3}{a^2-1} : \frac{a^4-a}{a^3+1}[/itex]) * [itex]\frac{a-a^2}{3}[/itex] = ([itex]\frac{-3a^2}{a^2-1}[/itex] * [itex]\frac{(a+1)(a^2-a+1)}{a(a-1)(a^2+a+1)}[/itex]) * [itex]\frac{a-a^2}{3}[/itex] = [itex]\frac{-a(a^2-a+1)(a-a^2)}{(a-1)(a-1)(a^2+a+1)}[/itex] = [itex]\frac{a^2(a^2-a+1)}{(a-1)(a^2+a+1)}[/itex] = [itex]\frac{a^4 - a^3 + a^2}{a^3 - 1}[/itex]
 
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Government$ said:
Here is my stab at it:

([itex]\frac{3}{a-1} - \frac{3a^2+3a+3}{a^2-1} : \frac{a^4-a}{a^3+1}[/itex]) * [itex]\frac{a-a^2}{3}[/itex] = ([itex]\frac{-3a^2}{a^2-1}[/itex] * [itex]\frac{(a+1)(a^2-a+1)}{a(a-1)(a^2+a+1)}[/itex]) * [itex]\frac{a-a^2}{3}[/itex] = [itex]\frac{-a(a^2-a+1)(a-a^2)}{(a-1)(a-1)(a^2+a+1)}[/itex] = [itex]\frac{a^2(a^2-a+1)}{(a-1)(a^2+a+1)}[/itex] = [itex]\frac{a^4 - a^3 + a^2}{a^3 - 1}[/itex]

What did you do to get to ([itex]\frac{-3a^2}{a^2-1}[/itex] * [itex]\frac{(a+1)(a^2-a+1)}{a(a-1)(a^2+a+1)}[/itex])?
 
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OMFG i made such a stuipid mistake. Instead of first dividing i have subtracted and of course i couldn't get a right solution. I have caluclated and gotten a rght solution.
Thank you all!
 
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Government$ said:

Homework Statement



http://alphacapitalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/factoringproblem.jpg


Homework Equations



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The Attempt at a Solution



I tried factoring this but it seems to me that author has made an error somewhere. Either solution to this problem is not 1/a-1 or there is error in the problem itself. Why? Well i tried putting a=2 and using author's solution i should get 1 but when i put it in the problem get 1.714. Any thoughts?

The symbol ":" has been used in 2 different contexts here. Assuming it means ##\divide##, try cancelling out the "a-1".
 
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