Factoring two variable function

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The discussion revolves around factoring the quadratic expression 2x^2 - (p-2)x - p, with participants exploring various methods and approaches to understand the factoring process.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants consider using the quadratic roots formula and discuss the complexity of the problem. Some suggest that there might be simpler methods involving factoring by grouping or analyzing coefficients. Others reflect on the nature of the expression as a quadratic in x with p as a parameter.

Discussion Status

There is a mix of approaches being discussed, with some participants sharing their attempts at factoring and others providing insights into different methods. While some solutions are proposed, there is no explicit consensus on a single approach, indicating an ongoing exploration of the topic.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the expression's nature as a quadratic polynomial and consider the implications of treating p as a parameter rather than a variable. The discussion includes references to factoring techniques and the potential for multiple interpretations of the problem.

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Homework Statement



How to factor 2x^2 - (p-2)x - p ??

Homework Equations


Basic factoring

The Attempt at a Solution



I don't know how to do it.
The answer is 2(x-p/2)(x+2/2)..
Help me please..
 
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By finding its roots?
 
blue_leaf77 said:
By finding its roots?
Using quadratic roots formula?
It seems pretty complicated
 
terryds said:
Using quadratic roots formula?
Yes.
terryds said:
It seems pretty complicated
It's very easy, you just need to pick that pen of yours and work it out on a paper.
 
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terryds said:
Using quadratic roots formula?
It seems pretty complicated
As Blue Leaf posted, that will certainly work, but there is often an easier way. Assuming it has reasonable factors, you can factorise the first and last coefficients. This yields the only possibilities as (x ...)(2x...) and (... 1)(... p). There are two ways of merging those, and some number of options for the sign in between.
I think there is actually a theorem about this.
 
haruspex said:
As Blue Leaf posted, that will certainly work, but there is often an easier way. Assuming it has reasonable factors, you can factorise the first and last coefficients. This yields the only possibilities as (x ...)(2x...) and (... 1)(... p). There are two ways of merging those, and some number of options for the sign in between.
I think there is actually a theorem about this.

Aha!

2x^2 + 2x - px - p= 0
2x (x+1) - p (x+1) =0
(2x-p)(x+1)=0

Thanks a lot! :D
 
terryds said:

Homework Statement



How to factor 2x^2 - (p-2)x - p ??

Homework Equations


Basic factoring

The Attempt at a Solution



I don't know how to do it.
The answer is 2(x-p/2)(x+2/2)..
Help me please..
Looks as if it's all solved very nicely.

Rather than considering this as a two variable function, I would consider p to be a parameter and x to be a variable, the independent variable. So ##\ 2x^2 - (p-2)x - p \ ## is a quadratic (degree 2 polynomial) in ##\ x\ .##

They way you factored this expression is very sensible.
Expanding the middle term gives a polynomial with 4 terms. A classic method for factoring a 4 term polynomial is called factoring by grouping, which is what you did.

In your case you might consider it to be good fortune that, you were given a quadratic in x, which could be expressed as a factorable 4 term polynomial.

The suggestion of blue_leaf77 in post #2, was also good advice. Whatever the method of finding the two zeros (roots to ##\ ax^2+bx+c=0\ ##), if those two zeros are ##\ s_1\ ## and ##\ s_2 \ ##, then the polynomial factors as follows.
##ax^2+bx+c = a(x-s_1)(x-s_2)##​

.Notice that the roots to you final equation in post #6 are x = p/2, -1 .

This gives the factoring you gave in post #1.
## 2x^2 - (p-2)x - p = 2(x - p/2)(x +1) ##​
 
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