Factoring x^4 + x^3 + 2x - 4 = 0 (cubic equ)

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The problem involves solving the polynomial equation x^4 + x^3 + 2x - 4 = 0, which is a fourth-degree polynomial. Participants are exploring methods for factoring or finding roots of this polynomial.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Some participants question the original poster's approach to factoring the polynomial and whether the equation should equal zero instead of four. Others suggest using the Rational Root Theorem and synthetic division as potential methods for finding roots.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various methods being suggested and explored. Some participants have pointed out the potential misinterpretation of the polynomial's degree and the appropriateness of the Rational Root Theorem. There is a recognition of the complexity involved in factoring fourth-degree polynomials.

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There is a mention of the original poster's uncertainty about their approach and the possibility of needing to adjust the equation. Additionally, some participants reflect on their own reasoning and the implications of their suggestions.

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Homework Statement


x^4 + x^3 + 2x - 4 = 0


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The Attempt at a Solution


x^4 + x^3 + 2x - 4 = 0
x(x^3 + x^2 +2) = 4

i don't know what to do with this. i tried to factor (x^3 + x^2 +2), but i don't know how. I also have a feeling that I am not doing this correctly and that there should be a zero instead of a 4 on the right hand side of the equal sign...
 
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I don't think there is, in general, a good way to factor a 4th degree polynomial. You can try synthetic division, if you think you have one factor: (x-1).
 
clamtrox said:
Rational root theorem sure seems like an overkill in this case.

So what you do is you say aha! x = 1 and x = -2

1 and -2 are between obvious root candidates pointed to by the rational root theorem - so you have just used it.

Besides, you have also just solved the question for the OP, which is exactly a thing that you should not do.
 
Borek said:
1 and -2 are between obvious root candidates pointed to by the rational root theorem - so you have just used it.

Besides, you have also just solved the question for the OP, which is exactly a thing that you should not do.

Oops, my bad. Also, I most definitely did not use rational root theorem; I used guessing. Just because I guess something and there exists a theorem that says my guess is good, doesn't mean I know or in any way care about the theorem. :-) Still, obviously it's a nice thing to know -- I wasn't thinking at all when posting.
 
clamtrox said:
I wasn't thinking at all when posting.

:smile: happens to everyone :wink:
 
Borek said:
This is not cubic.

Perhaps http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rational_root_theorem would help (especially as a4 = 1).
But the polynomial he gets after factoring out x-1 is a cubic. Perhaps that is what he was talking about.

And the rational root theorem works nicely to find a rational root of that cubic, leaving just a quadratic equation to be solved. (The quadratic has complex roots.)
 

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