Falling Loop in Magnetic Field: How long to leave field?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a metal loop falling through a magnetic field. The loop's dimensions, mass, resistance, and the characteristics of the magnetic field are specified. Participants are tasked with analyzing the forces acting on the loop and determining its terminal velocity, as well as the time it takes to exit the magnetic field.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the forces acting on the loop, particularly questioning the role of the magnetic field and whether it exerts a force on the loop as it falls. There is uncertainty about how to calculate the current and the resulting force. Some participants suggest looking into the concept of induction as it relates to changing magnetic flux.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants raising questions about the nature of the forces involved and the implications of the magnetic field on the loop's motion. There is a mix of confusion and attempts to clarify concepts, with some guidance provided regarding the relevance of induction. One participant indicates they have resolved their confusion, but no consensus has been reached on the problem as a whole.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the assumption that the time to reach terminal velocity is negligible, which may influence their calculations and reasoning. There is also a mention of the importance of understanding the term "induction" in the context of the problem.

dekoi
Question:

0.2m x 0.2m metal loop is oriented vertically.
mass = 10g
resistance = 0.010Ω
magnetic field = 1.0 T
The magnetic field is horizontal (into the page), perpendicular to the loop, and fills the top half of the loop. There is no magnetic field in the bottom half of the loop.
The loop is released from rest and allowed to fall.

a) Show that the loop reaches a terminal velocity, and find a value for it.
b) How long will it take the loop to leave the field? Assume the time needed to reach the terminal velocity is negligible. How does this compare to the time it would take the loop to fall the same distance in the absence of a field?


My Answer:
a) I am uncertain of whether there is a force exerted on the loop by the magnetic field. I would assume that the force acts in the horizontal direction, which would not affect the vertical motion of the loop. However, as the loop falls, it is no longer perpendicular to the magnetic field, and therefore creates an angle which will in turn create a force... ?
So if there is a force, then the equation is F = ILBsinΦ. However, I do not have a value for current, and I do not see a way of finding it.

b) I have not attempted part b) yet, since I have not even finished a). However, if you have any hints, please provide me with them.

Thank you.
 
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dekoi said:
Question:

0.2m x 0.2m metal loop is oriented vertically.
mass = 10g
resistance = 0.010Ω
magnetic field = 1.0 T
The magnetic field is horizontal (into the page), perpendicular to the loop, and fills the top half of the loop. There is no magnetic field in the bottom half of the loop.
The loop is released from rest and allowed to fall.

a) Show that the loop reaches a terminal velocity, and find a value for it.
b) How long will it take the loop to leave the field? Assume the time needed to reach the terminal velocity is negligible. How does this compare to the time it would take the loop to fall the same distance in the absence of a field?


My Answer:
a) I am uncertain of whether there is a force exerted on the loop by the magnetic field. I would assume that the force acts in the horizontal direction, which would not affect the vertical motion of the loop.
Why do you say the force would be horizontal ? How do you calculate what the force will be (magnitude and direction) ?
 
Gokul:
If there is a force, then the equation is F = ILBsinΦ. However, I do not have a value for current, and I do not see a way of finding it.
 
Look at your thread title again. Do you know what that term means ? If not, ask Faraday !
 
Gokul,
You are only confusing me, and are not helping me in any way to answer the problem.

Does anyone else have any advice?
 
The key to solving this was mentioned in the thread title, induction. Gokul pointed it out so he was helping you. As the magnetic flux through the loop changes what happens?
 
It's okay... I've figured it out.
 

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