Famous physicists related to famous entertainers

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The discussion explores the relationships between famous physicists and entertainers, specifically focusing on familial connections. Participants share examples and clarify their understanding of what constitutes a "blood relative," while also expressing uncertainty about certain claims and references.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks for examples of famous physicists related to entertainers, indicating a desire for lesser-known connections beyond the obvious.
  • Another participant expresses confusion about the "obvious" example mentioned, prompting further clarification.
  • Claims are made about Walter Heisenberg's familial ties to Julia Roberts and John Cleese's daughter's marriage to a descendant of Robert Oppenheimer, though the validity of these claims is not established.
  • A participant suggests Ada Lovelace as a potential example, noting her relation to Lord Byron.
  • There are humorous exchanges regarding the relationships mentioned, including a misunderstanding about Alfred Nobel and Seabiscuit.
  • Olivia Newton-John is mentioned as being related to physicist Max Born, with some participants joking about her connections to other figures.
  • Discussions arise about the accuracy of claims regarding family connections and the nature of the relationships described.
  • Some participants challenge the relevance of certain examples, questioning whether they meet the criteria of blood relations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the examples provided, with multiple competing views and uncertainties regarding the validity of the familial connections discussed.

Contextual Notes

Some claims about familial relationships may depend on interpretations of what constitutes a "blood relative," and there are unresolved questions about the accuracy of the examples given.

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Are there any examples (besides the obvious one) of a famous physicist who was a blood relative of a famous entertainer?
 
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The "obvious" one isn't obvious to me. Who are you talking about?
 
What about Walter Heisenberg, whose stepmum was Julia Roberts' auntie Mabel?

Or John Cleese, whose daughter married Robert Oppenheimer's little sister's granddaughter Mary?
 
Does Ada Lovelace, daughter of Lord Byron, count ?
 
zoobyshoe said:
The "obvious" one isn't obvious to me. Who are you talking about?
Um, the one you might have been able to guess from my screen name. Doesn't ring any bells?

By the way, the ones people gave (were some of those just jokes?) are absolutely ridiculous compared to the one which I said is obvious. Two of those three aren't even blood relatives. Although the last one is pretty interesting. I think I've heard of her at one time or another, but I didn't know she was Lord Byron's daughter.

I probably should have phrased the question more broadly, to include mathematicians and other scientists.
 
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ONJ's Noble Steed said:
Um, the one you might have been able to guess from my screen name. Doesn't ring any bells?
I don't get it. You're saying Alfred Nobel was related to Seabiscuit?
 
Zoob said:
I don't get it. You're saying Alfred Nobel was related to Seabiscuit?
:smile: :smile:

Zoob, Olivia Newton John is Max Born's grandkid.
 
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Gokul43201 said:
:smile: :smile:

Zoob, Olivia Newton John is Max Born's grandkid.
And she owns Seabiscuit?
 
zoobyshoe said:
And she owns Seabiscuit?
No, but she once had a thing with the Black Stallion, and once she went black...
 
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pronounced Ein-SHTEEN, of course.
 
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Math Is Hard said:
pronounced Ein-SHTEEN, of course.
Yes!

......
 
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Gokul43201 said:
Zoob, Olivia Newton John is Max Born's grandkid.
Anyway, you meant to say she's Newton's grandkid didn't you? I mean her name's not Olivia Born John, is it?
 
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zoobyshoe said:
Speaking of famous black sheep, looks who's third cousin twice removed I discovered moonlighting as a biographer:

[picture]

(This is an authentic scan of an actual book! Not photoshopped.)
Alfred ! :eek: Ha, a writer, eh...who's going to fall for that one ?! :rolleyes:
 
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Dirichlet was married to Mendelssohn's sister.

I guess he's not exactly a physicist though.
 
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Gokul43201 said:
Alfred ! :eek: Ha, a writer, eh...who's going to fall for that one ?! :rolleyes:
What? Oh, you're right! I thought from the cover Mozart's third cousin twice removed had written a biography of Alfred, but the book does seem to be about Mozart.
 
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Um, zoobyshoe, Seabiscuit died before ONJ was born. Isaac Newton's grandkids (if he had any) would have also died long before she was born.
 
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ONJ's Noble Steed said:
Um, zoobyshoe, Seabiscuit died before ONJ was born.
A fact from which I deduce you, yourself, are not ONJ's noble steed, Seabiscuit, but a poseur.
Isaac Newton's grandkids (if he had any) would have also died long before she was born.
That's obvious. What's not obvious is how anyone can deduce a relationship to any physicist other than Newton from the name Olivia Newton John.

I still have no idea where the horse comes in.
 
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Guess you've never heard the ballad for ONJ's steed, composed by that charismatic yodeler, Blues Steelspring - I think it was called "Born to run"...
 
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Gokul43201 said:
Guess you've never heard the ballad for ONJ's steed, composed by that charismatic yodeler, Blues Steelspring - I think it was called "Born to run"...
I'm familiar with most of his stuff. Didn't he write "Little Weird, Purple Houses"? Or was that John Cootie Mellonhead?

Anyway, maybe she changed it to Newton after realizing Olivia Born John was too suggestive of sex change surgery.
 
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Yeah, Purple Houses was a Mellonhead original...but I was more fond of that pioneering piece, Jack was Diane. Good heartland American values there...they should teach this stuff to little kids in school, rather than those horrendous nursery rhymes - all full of sex and violence.
 
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